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Interview with Linford Detweiler of Over the Rhine for Malone College Alumni Magazine/Website
June 2002

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1. Full names, years of graduation from Malone, majors while here:
Linford Jerome Detweiler, came to Malone in 1982 as Freshman, graduated 1987 with Bachelor of Arts Degree in Piano Performance, returned for another semester to complete Music Education Degree.

Karin Michele Bergquist, graduated 1988, Bachelor of Arts Degree in Vocal Performance.

2. What are your fondest memories of your days at Malone College?
I don't know where to begin. My parents lived in Montana when I was accepted at Malone and were in the process of moving to Northern Minnesota. I had been born in Hartville, Ohio, and my father used to take our family to see Audobon Nature Films at Malone when we very young. When I decided I wanted to study music in college, my father suggested the college back in Ohio where we had seen the films about the migrating habits of birds, the itchy, recalcitrant bears of Alaska, the whimsical, grinning, river otters. So I applied to Malone and was accepted as a music major sight unseen.

My oldest brother Conrad decided to go back to college as well that year, so we were both freshman. We both eventually married wonderful girls we met at Malone.

There were a handful of exceptional students in my freshman class that I'm still in touch with. I was in over my head in many ways, but I began the hard work of piecing together a world view, musically and otherwise. I have many fond memories: hanging out in "the barn" with friends, practicing the piano until 10pm in the practice wing more-or-less every evening.

Because my parents lived so far away, I would sometimes secretly stay in my dorm room during holiday weekends. The dorms would be locked for Thanksgiving break, and all the students would go home, stillness covering the campus like a new blanket. I would stay behind and discreetly climb in and out through my first floor window, a loaf of cafeteria bread in the closet. It was during one of those extended, self-imposed periods of isolation on campus that I picked up a bass guitar for the first time and taught myself to play the bass line to Silly Love Songs by Paul McCartney. The bass became my second instrument.

3. Did you participate in any music activities while here? If so, which one(s)?
It amazes me now how much I did as a student. I sang tenor and then baritone in the Malone chorale (I was seventeen when I started college and my voice was still changing). I served as pianist for the chorale and also played for occasional chapel services. I played organ for a small Mennonite church in Louisville, Ohio, every Sunday morning and eventually played keyboards for the televised Sunday evening services at Trinity Gospel Temple. They had a mostly black gospel choir and a full band: the gold curtain would part, the cameras would roll and all manner of pentecostal mayhem would break out.

I accompanied ballet classes for the Canton Ballet and tried not to get too distracted by the dozens of glistening girls lacing up their slippers. I taught piano lessons at Malone in the preparatory department and had as many as 30 students toward the end of my tenure on campus. I participated in the occasional piano competition.

Perhaps most importantly, in terms of my current career as a songwriter, I immediately began dabbling in bands at Malone with fellow students. We performed fairly regularly on campus in different configurations over the years, and mostly wrote and arranged our own songs. I also played with a local band for about a year called Magic that was run by a talented married couple. I was the only white musician in the group initially, and we played Motown covers and old R&B tunes at wedding receptions and so forth. Several of us students also played in one of the Kent State jazz ensembles and actually got a paying gig playing in the orchestra pit for a musical. I was like a sponge, musically-speaking I suppose: I wanted to absorb whatever I could.

Karin was also very active musically on campus. She sang in the chorale, and performed occasionally at chapel services and in campus theater productions. She also toured extensively and performed with the Malone Group, Potter's Clay.

4. What inspired you to perform together?
I didn't know Karin real well the first few years she was a student at Malone. I accompanied her on piano for her Junior voice recital, and Karin was one of the few students I met who could actually bring real tears to people's eyes when she sang. I never forgot that. For most of us, recitals were largely an exercise in keeping our frayed nerves under control, but Karin was actually getting a little something real across. People told us that there was a bit of a chemical reaction when we performed together, but neither of us paid it too much mind at the time.

Later, after we both graduated and went our separate ways, I had an opportunity to travel to New Zealand and Australia as a hired bass player in a music group led by good friends, Owen and Sandie Brock, and when I saw 400 kids standing in the rain in the mountains of New Zealand at a small music festival waiting to hear us play, it was an epiphany: I wanted to go home and start a band.

I thought of Karin and actually happened to see her not long after I got back and before I could get the words all the way out of my mouth, she was packing her suitcase. It's pretty amazing, in retrospect, that she dropped everything and moved to Cincinnati to start pursuing a career in music, but she had the spark and we've been able to support ourselves for over ten years now with our music. We were married in 1996, five or six years after we started the band.

When I had the chance to learn more of Karin's story, I realized that partly what moved people about her singing was the fact that her voice was directly connected to the part of her where her pain lived. Sometimes what comes out of Karin's mouth is as much crying as singing. It doesn't get any more universal than that. One thing about being human: we all know what it feels like to hurt. Art in general, especially good art, whether it's music, painting, dancing, writing, acting, has everything to do with man's search for healing, for meaning.

5. Where do you get your ideas for your music?
I draw mostly in intuitive ways from my life's story, the stuff that has happened to me, the people I've met. Music has been an inspiring means of making sense of the past, figuring out where I've come from, what I care about, believe, long for. The eight cd's we've made in the last ten years are my way of expressing gratitude for the opportunity I was given to become a human being. And doing something creative for a living has allowed me to retain a sense of humor. Can't you tell?

6. What would you like to achieve through your music?
Well, when I started out, I wanted to see the world, meet girls, and eventually buy a small farm. Over the Rhine has traveled and performed extensively in North America and Europe, so we've definitely covered a lot of miles. I suppose I saw a lot of girls along the way, fleetingly, through moving windows, and opted to marry the singer in the end, so that all worked out fine. We have not purchased a small farm as of yet, but we do have a charming, 110-year-old Victorian house in a Cincinnati neighborhood that we'd like to turn into a bed and breakfast someday. So who knows, maybe the farm will come when the time is right.

But actually, what I want to do more than anything these days is just to give the world a little something beautiful. To participate in some tiny way in the work of redemption. People have written to us to let us know that they've fallen in love to the music of Over the Rhine and even walked down the aisle or danced their first wedding dance to the music of Over the Rhine. Others seem to want to make sure we know that they conceived to our music. Some have told us they took our music into the delivery room when they gave birth. An older Irishman once told Karin that he listened over and over to a song she had written (Poughkeepsie) when he was recovering from a cancer operation. And our music sometimes comes to mean a great deal to people who have survived the loss of loved ones. This all seems somehow miraculous to me, not something I can take a lot of credit for. But it's wonderful to have your life's work tangled up in the everyday lives of diverse people here and there.

7. Did Malone College prepare you in any way for what you are now doing? Academically or spiritually? In what ways?
At the end of the day, it all came down to the people. There are too many to name, but perhaps I should quickly name a few. My fellow students, Brent Schloneger, Ric Hordinski, Chris Hart and Dave Golladay were all odd, gifted, restless and inspiring in their own way. A few professors that were very important to me were Dr. Lair, who read all but one of my freshman English papers aloud to the class and tried to convince even me that I could write. Another English professor, Dale King, taught me to care about words and to have the courage to revel in language unapolegetically. The first time I heard Dale King teach, I started to applause after the class ended and had to stop myself. Both men were spiritually substantial and important influences. Karin and I were honored to have Dale King fly in and read a number of poems aloud at our wedding. He took me aside beforehand and said, "Now Linford, this marriage isn't For as long as we both shall love, is it?"

Sandra Carnes was a music professor that was constantly working to make our worlds a little wider. She organized many trips here and there to try to give her students glimpses of a larger musical world. She combatted the insular nature of small towns with a vengeance. She taught me to keep my eyes open and whenever possible, to surround myself with minds brighter than my own. She also took me aside to tell me that I could write, and that little piece of encouragement has also meant the world to me.

Dr. Collins was a professor that came to mean alot to Karin. His warmth and ability to communicate his world view with a twinkle in his eye gave his students a great deal of hope I think.

8. Any influences on your music? Who?
The books I've read have influenced my music as much as anything I've listened to. Authors like Annie Dillard and Frederick Buechner became my new teachers after I graduated from college. Also, I've come to realize that the old hymns I grew up hearing are important to me.

9. What should I have asked but didn't?
Well, if I wasn't involved with music so deeply, I'm quite sure I would have eventually pursued a career in writing. I've been fortunate to have a few pieces published recently, and I have a first, small book coming out this summer. I would encourage students or anyone to recognize the fact that we're all writing a story with our lives whether or not we ever bother to pick up a pen. Take good care of the cast of characters you've been given, they are essential to your story. You are your own protagonist. And antagonist. Turn the pages with care. Take care not to miss the good parts. And as far as the pages that we all would love to re-write: there is such a thing as grace.