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otrfan
The 20th anniversary of OtR is coming up ! ! ! WOW! I wonder what kind of anniversaryish things we can dream about? See come to fruition? Myself, I would love to see an anniversary tour, taking songs from every release and doing them leave. Maybe we fans can vote for our favorites from each release or let the band pick their favorites and bring them to us live.
Me, I have been a fan for almost 14 years. December 1994. Eve. Will never forget it.

What would be on your wish list?

Russ
b_lachey@hotmail.com
QUOTE (otrfan @ Jul 25 2008, 05:00 PM) *
The 20th anniversary of OtR is coming up ! ! ! WOW! I wonder what kind of anniversaryish things we can dream about? See come to fruition? Myself, I would love to see an anniversary tour, taking songs from every release and doing them leave. Maybe we fans can vote for our favorites from each release or let the band pick their favorites and bring them to us live.
Me, I have been a fan for almost 14 years. December 1994. Eve. Will never forget it.

What would be on your wish list?

Russ

I wouldn't want to "do them leave" but here's my hope for a live setlist, off the top of my head:

I Will Not Eat The Darkness
Eyes Wide Open
Thank You My Angel
Everybody Wants To Feel Like You
I've Been Slipping
Little Genius
Happy To Be So
Murder
Trumpet Child
Moth

Professional Daydreamer
I Let It Go
Happy With Myself?
Suitcase
Anyway
Paul & Virginia
Nothing Is Innocent
Spark
Give Me Strength

Like A Radio
New Redemption Song
Idea 21

Rhapsodie
euro60
Wasn't there talk at some point of a couple of shows over a weekend in Hawaii? including one "for the fans" (similar to the St. Elizabeth shows the day after the Taft shows).

I would love the idea. Never been to Hawaii. Perfect excuse.
euro60
QUOTE (b_lachey@hotmail.com @ Jul 25 2008, 05:22 PM) *
I wouldn't want to "do them leave" but here's my hope for a live setlist, off the top of my head:

I Will Not Eat The Darkness
Eyes Wide Open
Thank You My Angel
Everybody Wants To Feel Like You
I've Been Slipping
Little Genius
Happy To Be So
Murder
Trumpet Child
Moth

Professional Daydreamer
I Let It Go
Happy With Myself?
Suitcase
Anyway
Paul & Virginia
Nothing Is Innocent
Spark
Give Me Strength

Like A Radio
New Redemption Song
Idea 21

Rhapsodie

Bruce, any "ultimate" or "definitive" setlist MUST include "If I'm Drowing" (full-length 13+ min. version) :-)
WalrusOct9
I'd settle for anything off Eve, like, more than one song that isn't "My Love Is A Fever" (although if they did the original version of the song, I'd be pretty happy about that too). More and more, that seems to be my choice for favorite OTR album....it's a straight guitar/bass/drums album that somehow manages to sound unlike any other guitar-based record in my collection.
EdB
QUOTE (b_lachey@hotmail.com @ Jul 25 2008, 05:22 PM) *
QUOTE (otrfan @ Jul 25 2008, 05:00 PM) *
The 20th anniversary of OtR is coming up ! ! ! WOW! I wonder what kind of anniversaryish things we can dream about? See come to fruition? Myself, I would love to see an anniversary tour, taking songs from every release and doing them leave. Maybe we fans can vote for our favorites from each release or let the band pick their favorites and bring them to us live.
Me, I have been a fan for almost 14 years. December 1994. Eve. Will never forget it.

What would be on your wish list?

Russ

I wouldn't want to "do them leave" but here's my hope for a live setlist, off the top of my head:

I Will Not Eat The Darkness
Eyes Wide Open
Thank You My Angel
Everybody Wants To Feel Like You
I've Been Slipping
Little Genius
Happy To Be So
Murder
Trumpet Child
Moth

Professional Daydreamer
I Let It Go
Happy With Myself?
Suitcase
Anyway
Paul & Virginia
Nothing Is Innocent
Spark
Give Me Strength

Like A Radio
New Redemption Song
Idea 21

Rhapsodie



I've only been a fan for four years, and I do have most of the recordings, but there are SO many (thankfully) that it's
difficult for me to recognize each song that you've listed.

You couldn't list the recordings each song is off of, could you? 'Cause I'd like to run down the list and give them a listen.
Thanks (if you have the time or inclination).

Listening to their music in anticipation of their show at Cain Park I was trying to form a list of my favorite recordings and
'Eve' keeps popping up. Gotta be in the top four.

No 'Latter Days'? In my limited experience with their music, I would call it the quintessential OtR song. That's what came
to mind when they did it during the encore Tues. night. Sure was an enjoyable evening.
stivmc
Album name in bold. Welcome to the Orchard EdB!
QUOTE (EdB @ Jul 25 2008, 07:43 PM) *
You couldn't list the recordings each song is off of, could you? 'Cause I'd like to run down the list and give them a listen.
Thanks (if you have the time or inclination).


QUOTE (b_lachey@hotmail.com @ Jul 25 2008, 05:22 PM) *
I wouldn't want to "do them leave" but here's my hope for a live setlist, off the top of my head:

I Will Not Eat The Darkness - Good Dog Bad Dog (both)
Eyes Wide Open - Til We Have Faces
Thank You My Angel - Darkest Night of the Year
Everybody Wants To Feel Like You - Live From Nowhere Vol 2
I've Been Slipping - Patience
Little Genius - Patience*
Happy To Be So - Good Dog Bad Dog
Murder - Besides
Trumpet Child - The Trumpet Child
Moth - Films For Radio, Amateur Shortwave Radio

Professional Daydreamer - Ohio
I Let It Go - The Cutting Room Floor
Happy With Myself? - Eve
Suitcase - Ohio, Changes Come
Anyway - Amateur Shortwave Radio
Paul & Virginia - Til We Have Faces
Nothing Is Innocent - The Trumpet child
Spark - Drunkard's Prayer, Live From Nowhere Vol 1
Give Me Strength - Films For Radio, The Cutting Room Floor

Like A Radio - Til We Have Faces, Amateur Shortwave Radio
New Redemption Song - Snow Angels
Idea 21 - Ohio

Rhapsodie - Patience


*Edited to correct my brain fart!
bivester
QUOTE (stivmc @ Jul 25 2008, 08:53 PM) *
Little Genius - Little Genius

Little Genius - Little Genius Patience
stivmc
QUOTE (bivester @ Jul 25 2008, 09:13 PM) *
QUOTE (stivmc @ Jul 25 2008, 08:53 PM) *
Little Genius - Little Genius

Little Genius - Little Genius Patience



D'OH!

Thanks Bill
bivester
QUOTE
Aug 1988-Journal Entry By Linford

August, 1988

I've just joined Ric and Brian in Cincinnati
to pursue music and youthful adventure.
We live not far apart in an old German
neighbourhood called "Over the Rhine."
It's glutted with angular mid-nineteenth
century brick buildings and beautifully
dreadful nightime streets. It's somber,
racially mixed, ethnically diverse and
bless with an abundance of transients,
panhandlers, and assorted misfits.

We'll be doing all of our initial writing and
recording in my third story bedroom
overlooking the activity of Main Street.
Over the Rhine is a poet's dream
neighbourhood in that its imagery is often
so striking: people getting stone on the
steps of St. John's; reticent, toothless smiles
of old women in windows....


Feb. 1989- Linford Detweiler sees Karin Bergquist, a former schoolmate perform a classical duet in Italian at a recital and approaches her with the possibility of delving into pop music
April 1989- Over The Rhine formed when Karin Bergquist joins Linford, Ric, and Brian to write "post-nuclear, pseudo-alternative, folk-tinged art-pop."
April 1989- First seven songs of _'Til We Have Faces_ recorded in Timothy McAllister's basement on 8 Track

* courtesy of jeffery holland and an over the rhine history - the dirt road
jholland
Holy cow.... that reminds me the site is in bad need of an update.

I'd like to see a "do one song from every album" show. I think that would be a lot of fun. It would be a pipe-dream to bring out the original quartet for a couple songs, but even if the current quartet (+ Kenny would be a major bonus) did it, it would be a real hoot.

Jeff
b_lachey@hotmail.com
QUOTE (jholland @ Jul 25 2008, 09:53 PM) *
Holy cow.... that reminds me the site is in bad need of an update.

I'd like to see a "do one song from every album" show. I think that would be a lot of fun. It would be a pipe-dream to bring out the original quartet for a couple songs, but even if the current quartet (+ Kenny would be a major bonus) did it, it would be a real hoot.

Jeff

It's a fun idea. My other favorite band just did a few shows like that (I was unable to attend).. They pulled out some OLD ones, never before played live, etc.. One from each of their albums.
WalrusOct9
That would be cool, although I think it'd only work if they avoided the obvious ones that they've continued to play ("Rhapsodie," "My Love is A Fever," "World Can Wait") and intentionally focused on songs they haven't played in ages.


Everyone would love to see a full performance of their favorite album, especially after the Ohio show in May, but I think a more reasonable idea would be similar to what Iron Maiden has been doing this year. They put out a new record in 2006 and played the entire thing on tour, so before going back to record their next album, they're doing the "Somewhere Back In Time" tour exclusively playing tunes from their classic era, to sort of balance out their touring setlist mojo, I suppose.

Similarly, I think OTR could do a really amazing tour focusing on their 90's songs (and maybe a few FFR tunes that haven't been aired in 5+ years). It'd be a way to keep things fresh until they record their next album, since they've been playing TTC songs for almost two years now, as well as celebrate the band's anniversary and provide a sort of musical gift to the people who've supported them for so long. The upside of not having any "hits" is that you could craft a retrospective setlist without it feeling forced, playing the stuff they want to rediscover and songs the most ardent fans want to hear.

Obviously no one could make the band do anything like this, but I think it'd be kind of a fun thing for this year's Christmas tour, a sort of moment of affectionately (I would hope) looking back before once again beginning to move forward. Just a thought...
DustyVolume
Kudos Russ! Awesome topic. smile.gif Here are my favorites from each release--with a little embelishment. And this is my dream concert, roughly in this order* Hey, I can dream, can't I? Awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome. biggrin.gif


Last Night
Thank You My Angel
Professional Daydreamer
Everybody Wants To Feel Like You
Suitcase
Anyway
Cast Me Away
And Can It Be
L.A.R Reprise
Happy and Free
New Redemption Song
Rhapsodie (with unreleased intro)

Within Without (rough mix)
Coal Train
Conjectures Of A Guilty Bystander
Lullabye
Murder
June
Dangerously Faithful
Miles
I Painted My Name
Toledo
Dead Weight
Halelelujah

Spinning
Fairpoint Diary (original demo)
What I'll Remember Most
Snow Angel
Lifelong Sunshine
Long Lost Brother
Nobody Number One
I will Remember
Cruel and Pretty
I Don’t Wanna Waste Your Time
We’re Gonna Pull Through

Everybody Knows*
Who Will Guard the Door
Orphan Girl

Sea and Sky
Paul and Virginia

Hush Now







EdB
QUOTE (stivmc @ Jul 25 2008, 08:53 PM) *
Album name in bold. Welcome to the Orchard EdB!
QUOTE (EdB @ Jul 25 2008, 07:43 PM) *
You couldn't list the recordings each song is off of, could you? 'Cause I'd like to run down the list and give them a listen.
Thanks (if you have the time or inclination).


QUOTE (b_lachey@hotmail.com @ Jul 25 2008, 05:22 PM) *
I wouldn't want to "do them leave" but here's my hope for a live setlist, off the top of my head:

I Will Not Eat The Darkness - Good Dog Bad Dog (both)
Eyes Wide Open - Til We Have Faces
Thank You My Angel - Darkest Night of the Year
Everybody Wants To Feel Like You - Live From Nowhere Vol 2
I've Been Slipping - Patience
Little Genius - Patience*
Happy To Be So - Good Dog Bad Dog
Murder - Besides
Trumpet Child - The Trumpet Child
Moth - Films For Radio, Amateur Shortwave Radio

Professional Daydreamer - Ohio
I Let It Go - The Cutting Room Floor
Happy With Myself? - Eve
Suitcase - Ohio, Changes Come
Anyway - Amateur Shortwave Radio
Paul & Virginia - Til We Have Faces
Nothing Is Innocent - The Trumpet child
Spark - Drunkard's Prayer, Live From Nowhere Vol 1
Give Me Strength - Films For Radio, The Cutting Room Floor

Like A Radio - Til We Have Faces, Amateur Shortwave Radio
New Redemption Song - Snow Angels
Idea 21 - Ohio

Rhapsodie - Patience


*Edited to correct my brain fart!


Thanks so much for taking the time to provide me with that information.

And thanks for the welcome!

As I stated in my post on the Cain Park show my wife and I and our friends are fairly new to the band but we absolutely love them and
can't wait for them to return to Kent.
IrishCoyote
QUOTE (EdB @ Jul 26 2008, 04:26 AM) *
And thanks for the welcome!

As I stated in my post on the Cain Park show my wife and I and our friends are fairly new to the band but we absolutely love them and
can't wait for them to return to Kent.


Yeah, OTR's about one of the stars that have to align for me to go "time to go back to Kent to visit."
I'd love to see a retrospective show. And of course, its on of those perfect things to discuss round the forums. I'll have to dig my brain for later.
But I don't think Latter Days would be on my list- as it gets plenty of play still.

But ooh, Rhapsodie, Ciricle of Quiet, HDIF, Like a Radio (played into) I Radio Heaven...
yeah, I can play this game.
euro60
QUOTE (WalrusOct9 @ Jul 26 2008, 03:16 AM) *
OTR could do a really amazing tour focusing on their 90's songs (and maybe a few FFR tunes that haven't been aired in 5+ years). It'd be a way to keep things fresh until they record their next album, since they've been playing TTC songs for almost two years now, as well as celebrate the band's anniversary and provide a sort of musical gift to the people who've supported them for so long. The upside of not having any "hits" is that you could craft a retrospective setlist without it feeling forced, playing the stuff they want to rediscover and songs the most ardent fans want to hear.

I whole-heartedly agree with that. Nostalgia is a concept that needs and deserves full embracing, nothing wrong with it. Let's set aside the new music for a bit, and rediscover the old stuff for a worthy cause (20 years of OtR).
justsino
QUOTE (euro60 @ Jul 25 2008, 05:19 PM) *
Bruce, any "ultimate" or "definitive" setlist MUST include "If I'm Drowing" (full-length 13+ min. version) :-)


Amen to that!! When they all fade out.. one by one.

Love it!
theaterboi01
mmmmmm to hear Circle of Quiet live!!!! *swoons*
DustyVolume
Hmmm. These 16 songs total up to 79 minutes 58 seconds. Coincidence? I think not! smile.gif

Dangerously Faithful
Last Night
Fairpoint Diary
Professional Daydreamer
Anyway
Nobody Number One
I will Remember
Within Without
Conjectures Of A Guilty Bystander
Murder
Dead Weight
Lifelong Sunshine
Cruel and Pretty
Hush Now
June
Who Will Guard the Door


Making a mix CD to give to some co-workers today. These will do nicely, I think.
WalrusOct9
QUOTE (euro60 @ Jul 28 2008, 09:24 AM) *
QUOTE (WalrusOct9 @ Jul 26 2008, 03:16 AM) *
OTR could do a really amazing tour focusing on their 90's songs (and maybe a few FFR tunes that haven't been aired in 5+ years). It'd be a way to keep things fresh until they record their next album, since they've been playing TTC songs for almost two years now, as well as celebrate the band's anniversary and provide a sort of musical gift to the people who've supported them for so long. The upside of not having any "hits" is that you could craft a retrospective setlist without it feeling forced, playing the stuff they want to rediscover and songs the most ardent fans want to hear.

I whole-heartedly agree with that. Nostalgia is a concept that needs and deserves full embracing, nothing wrong with it. Let's set aside the new music for a bit, and rediscover the old stuff for a worthy cause (20 years of OtR).



Agreed....I think a lot of bands are so utterly terrified of becoming a nostalgia act like the Stones that they intentionally avoid their past, or at best, have a strained relationship with it. It is a dangerous line to cross, I mean...at some point, Petty and Elton and all those guys had to realize their fans had become old and complacent and didn't give two shits about any song they played that was less than 5 years old, but I think a smaller cult band like OTR doesn't really have to worry about that happening. Although sometimes I do feel like the band intentionally tries to downplay the importance of the early years, and except for the couple of GDBD songs that crop up, rarely seem to pull from the pre-Ohio catalog...so I definitely think there's some enlightening rediscovery to be had, from both the band and the fans.

The more I think about this, the more I hope they mark the anniversary with something. Obviously some kind of live show with long-lost gems from the past would be ideal, but the other thing I was thinking about would be some kind of Dylan-esque archival live release. I mean, let's face it, the first 10-13 years of the band have been criminally under-represented as far as live material goes. Amateur Shortwave Radio is a pleasant curiosity in the OTR catalog, but hardly fills the void of live recordings from the band's first era. The mid-90's Taft shows (or whatever venue it was before the Taft) were recorded well enough for a track to end up on Besides, so there's obviously good stuff to cull recordings from. Doesn't have to be a major undertaking, just a web-only release like the LFN series. Every time that live "My Love Is A Fever" from '95 comes on, all I can think about is how awesome the rest of the show must've been and how I'd kill to have a professional quality recording of it....just a thought.
otrfan
Still thinking of/working on my dream set list. I am pretty sure I would want the show to start with Cast Me Away/And Can It Be. That is as far as I have made it. Too much time thinking about it, analyzing it, etc., whatever. As for a cover, I would still love to hear them do their take on What A Wonderful World.

When my finals are done, I should have my dream set-list in it's entirety.
jnhashmi
Here is my ultimate set list. No covers - just a lot of glorious OtR from all era's, all mixed together. This would be a great way to celebrate the tremendous body of work imho.

Moth Films For Radio 2001
...then slam-cut into...
Everyman's Daughter Good Dog Bad Dog 2000
[banter]
Nobody Number One Ohio 2003
Paul And Virginia Till We Have Faces 1991
Falling (Death Of A Tree) Eve 1994
Long Lost Brother Ohio 2003
Professional Daydreamer Ohio 2003
Spark Drunkard's Prayer 2005
Lasso A Falling Star Save Elizabeth 2003
Jacksie Patience 1992
Suitcase Ohio 2003
Firefly Drunkard's Prayer 2005
If A Song Could Be President The Trumpet Child 2007
How Long Have You Been Stoned Ohio 2003
Like A Radio Amateur Shortwave Radio 1999
Little Genius Patience 1992
Let's Spend The Day In Bed The Trumpet Child 2007
White Horse Snow Angels 2006
I Painted My Name Patience 1992
Circle of Quiet Amateur Shortwave Radio 1999
Latter Days Good Dog Bad Dog 2000

Encore:
The World Can Wait Films For Radio 2001
Hometown Boy Ohio 2003
Bothered Ohio 2003
Kit
QUOTE (b_lachey@hotmail.com @ Jul 25 2008, 04:22 PM) *
Trumpet Child
Nothing Is Innocent


If this is also your way of saying that these are the 2 best tracks from The Trumpet Child, then I have to say I am in agreement. cool.gif
b_lachey@hotmail.com
QUOTE (Kit @ Aug 3 2008, 10:00 PM) *
QUOTE (b_lachey@hotmail.com @ Jul 25 2008, 04:22 PM) *
Trumpet Child
Nothing Is Innocent


If this is also your way of saying that these are the 2 best tracks from The Trumpet Child, then I have to say I am in agreement. cool.gif

I wouldn't say they are the BEST. But - for me at least - they are the most universal. IMO, they both are practically perfect songs. The lyrics and music align so perfectly on the Trumpet Child track that it's barely bearable for me. Both songs resonate for me deeply, and make me feel (two or so years after first hearing them, anyway) that the tracks will never grow old. Both combine the grace and style that OTRs music has held throughout the years, but with a renewed sense of purpose and urgency in tone.

So in my own selfish way, I'd hope they become as legacy and vital to OTR's catalogue as Latter Days and Rhapsodie, songs that any reasonable fan of life should be pleased to hear even after 100+ times live.
sparklyboy
I LOVE "Amateur Shortwave Radio". I would be happy with something like that. I like the idea of an Anniversary Tour and a live album. My wish for tracks to be included are:


bothered
i will remember
circle of quiet
if i am drowning----i agree with the really long version
and can it be
how does it feel(to be on my mind)
sleep baby jane
all i need is everything
faithfully dangerous
thank you my angel
the body is a stairway of skin
give me strength
ohio
what i'll remember most
long lost brother
drunkard's prayer
i want you to be my love
trouble
don't wait for tom
snow angel----this song makes me cry i have to include it


this list is in no particular order



throatybeard
K&L talk quite a bit about living in their present artistic moment, or something like that. Maybe that's why some of the older stuff has fallen out of rotation, I dunno. When your catalog is as big as there's something just can't get performed with much frequency.

We've been listening since 1995 but only had the disposable $$ to travel to attend shows starting in 2001. So obviously, most of the earliest shows we hear were on the FFR tour, but at my very first concert, there was a LOT of Eve, which was great.

So for me, the stuff I'm most desperate to hear is the rarely performed 1990s stuff because I haven't heard much of it done live. The number one song I want to hear live is Conjectures of a Guilty Bystander. #2 would be I will Remember. And though it's a little later, we somehow never managed to catch I Let It Go live.

ASR was basically a tenth anniversary album. I bet they'll do something for XX.
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