!!!!!!!OVER THE RHINE... PLEASE CONSIDER!!!!!!!!

I know there has been a lot of discussion about a DVD and even an attempt at a DVD in recent years. I would like to humbly suggest that there would not be a better DVD than to record this concert and put it out there for the fans, packaged with some bonus material and goodies acquired over the years. That would be an incredible treat for all the fans and I, for one, would like to be the first to pre-order such a DVD. Just tell me where to send the money and I'll do it right now!

If you agree, please "second" this comment below! If enough people sign on here, i think they would have to allow someone to record the show for a DVD release "just in time for Christmas!"

Thanks. Let the Petition Begin....

(And Oh... if it could be done in HD that would be really awesome. Beggars can't be choosy though )

I would absolutely buy this if it came out on DVD.

Of course, I would buy anything they put out on DVD.

And if they ever put anything out on DVD, and it's in surround sound ... I'll marry it.

I agree!

Hear! Hear! PLEASE make it happen!

Great, wonderful, fantastic idea !

I would buy it in a minute.

I want it!

Maybe if we are lucky, then someone will video it and then make a vine here on the Orchard.

I'm not sure if the finances will allow this, since DVD shoots typically require a decent (but not irrational) amount of cash, but also a fair amount of planning.


I do hope though, that if this isn't recorded for official release, they at least allow Shawn or someone else to patch out of the board and offer a top-notch recording of what will be a really unique show.

I agree... I hope that its either allowed to be recorded onto DVD OR that there is an audio at least shared for this event... we've got enough tapers here.. I'm sure they'll allow someone to snag this for those of us who can't make it yet drool in anticipation....

I'm going to chime in here, briefly. I would also love to see a professionally-recorded DVD and/or CD come out of this. If that doesn't pan out, I'd be more than happy to have a go at both audio and video. However, there are potential reasons why that may not be able to happen (my attendance isn't one of them--I purchased my ticket as soon as they were up!). A potential hurdle for a pro recording or even for a taper to do this could be issues with the venue. I have no idea about the situation with Riverbend, but I know some venues charge a surprisingly large amount for the right to make a recording at their facility. This was an issue recently with a Los Lobos concert I was asked to record by the band's official archivist. The house manager eventually allowed it to happen since it wasn't for a saleable product, but he raised quite a stink even though it had the band's blessing, as there had not been arrangements made--or money paid--to the venue to have a recording happen. It was technically in violation of union rules for that facility. That up-front fee to the venue would be in addition to the costs of having the pros come in and record the thing, plus post-production, etc. Maybe there wouldn't be such an issue in this case, and I'm sure K&L are glad to know people are interested in a recording, but other factors may come into play we may not be privy to, and I'd hate to see everyone with their undergarments in a bunch (figuratively or literally) if it doesn't happen. Of course, even if nothing is allowed officially by the venue, something might emerge, if not quite up to the level we'd really like to have. I'm hopeful we'll have something . . . I guess I'm advising enthusiasm for this, but tempered with the awareness that a lot of things have to line up for it to happen.

thanks shawn. i was trying to think of a way to say that there is a lot more to something like this than K&L simply saying "roll tape" (and because "roll digital" just doesn't sound right ).

but you just did, much better than i could have. thanks.

There's been talk of WNKU possibly recording the show (audio) but I don't know the current status

Hey, at least it's not at the House of Blues. Those douchebags won't even let you take a freaking picture in their precious little corporate venue.


The whole thing with venues being anal about recording never made too much sense to me...seems to me it's free promotion for your venue if a band makes a live recording at your theater and people like it. *shrug* Then again...I'm only a fan.

A lot of the "recordings" has to do with many venues automatically make recordings of every show that pass through their halls..and thus don't like to have any competition about that. I know Gravity Lounge here in C'ville does it, and Eddie's Attic in GA is known for it as well.... but we'll see what comes of it... K&L usually record for their own usage (namely LFN VOL ___ ) so I agree.. lets be enthused.. but understanding (which we normally are)

Heck Yeah! It has been so long since they have come out with a concert video and this concert is such a unique one that it is very worthy of the treatment.

I wholeheartedly concur that this particular concert should be filmed and released as a dvd. Is it not true that a large portion of shows on the OHIO and DRUNKARD'S PRAYER tours were similarly filmed for some kind of video release?

BSC

this comes up around here on a semi-regular basis...quite a few shows on the original "ohio" tour were recorded, both video and audio. the project was cancelled years ago and never completed and based on a conversation that i had w/linford (a couple of years ago) they have absolutely no plans on completing and/or releasing it. they have "moved on" on this, as we probaly should.

If they aren't going to release it as a DVD, I think they should cull songs that they can live with being in the public arena and release them on overtherhine.com either as a free download or paid. From what I've seen, most of the footage is amazing.

Of course if they wait much longer this will become more of the "lost" footage that will undoubtedly be released in 2087 after most of us are all dead and can't enjoy it.

personally, i *think* they should (and wish they would) release it too. but, i also *think* the odds of it happening are somewhere between "slim and none."

and maybe it should be remembered, that was not the best of times for them personally. and maybe, out of respect & courtesy, we should just let it go.

Yes, you've been clear in your thoughts and wishes, and not that I don't believe you (because really, why should I not?) however until Linford himself (or Karin) comes out and says pretty much what you've said above, then there is always that hope that one day the footage will be released, which is why I said:



Because surely not every song in the raw footage (which from what I hear is massive) is so unbearably painful that it couldn't be at least considered for release based on its artistic and fan merit alone.

Just my thoughts.

Yes, yes, yes. I would buy a dvd of this concert. It could be mixed with the video from that much-discussed project that never happened. I spliced all those clips that were available on the production company's web site together, so I have my own little 8 minute documentary, but would love to see one mixed in with this concert.

It's possible (and this is purely conjecture on my part) that there are some legal and compensation issues with the filmers and producers of the DVD that would preclude releasing content to the public. I have a feeling it's not so simple as "why won't the band let us see it?"

Jeff

Yes, this is possible, however from speaking to the chief videographer at the time, that's not the impression I got. At any rate, I just don't see how they're not considering doing a DVD now. I mean it's time you know. They're at the pinnacle of their careers so far, and it's only getting better.

Well . . . it could be a substantial expense to get all the resources lined up for this, and there's no large label that's going to front the money for them (AFAIK, anyway). And, it's a totally one-off concert, so that if anything goes wrong in the performance, you have to either live with it or not use that part, as there's not likely going to be a chance to fix it. If the concert as a whole doesn't quite meet their standard of quality, then it's been a very expensive exercise in futility. Now, I've yet to see an OtR show that was anywhere near something I'd consider unreleasable, but artists can be their own toughest critics.

Maybe it's just me, but this entire thread makes me somewhat uncomfortable. Having no knowledge of how the powers that be feel about this, I readily admit it may be with no cause whatsoever. But I feel like the line between 1) optimistically looking forward to a novel performance with, maybe, a possibility of a potential recording and 2) demanding that such a recording take place (regardless of if it makes any business or logistical sense--because they owe it to us, because a previous project didn't come to fruition, because we want it) is rapidly approaching if not already crossed. I'm sure K&L are aware that the majority of regulars here and a high percentage of the lurkers would likely be interested in this, and that if it's possible, if it's something they want to do, and if makes sense in the big picture to undertake this, they will. So I'm not sure what purpose this thread serves other than to increase the level of disappoinment if it doesn't happen. Again, I could be totally wrong about this, and if there's a need to sound out interest about the project among the forum regulars, I apologize for bringing the thread's worth into question.

again, perfectly stated shawn.

maybe if they do do it, they'll call it "ohio: beating a dead horse."

A big 'ol RIMSHOT for you, Bill

I would like to see it happen ...

I don't know why I have to state things like this, but let me make a few points.

1) I am not demanding anything, and I do not feel that the band owes me anything due to some shelved project or otherwise.

2) I would like to have a high quality recording of the band playing on DVD--something that may be a little selfish, but nonetheless, not unrealistic either.

3) I have faith that Karin and Linford will make their own best decisions on a business and a personal level when the time is right for such a project to be developed.

4) and lastly, I think if we truly have respect for Karin and Linford, then we will leave them alone right now and let them live their lives in peace free from any trivial message board drama that has no meaning whatsoever in the real world.

who's bothering them w/this stuff? nobody that i'm aware of.

it just seems (and my opinion only), that this is almost an obsession w/some around here and they refuse to let it go (ie: beating a dead horse). and everytime the topic comes up it turns in to this...

and with that, i'm done. in fact, i wish i'd never chimed in, things can only be said so many times.

Well, at least we're in agreement with your last three points. In fact I think I'm done posting to this forum completely. It seems less and less where I want to be anymore anyway.

Wow... i haven't checked this in a while an i was pretty shocked to see so much lively discussion from a post i made. Glad to see i'm not the only one who thinks this would be a great idea! I was equally disappointed to see that it had caused some to be so frustrated that they concluded to never post here again. Didn't realize this was such a hot button issue.

I guess my purpose of the post was to drum up support. My thinking was that if, say 200 people replied and said, i'll pre-order a DVD, and there was a decently professional production company out there that could come in and do something like this then it might encourage the powers to be to do it...especially if folks sent them money now for a little down payment. It was just an idea. I guess i didn't think about it being demanding or possibly setting folks up for disappointment as has been suggested here... Just encouraging.

Anyway, i still think it's a good idea and the show is still a pretty good time away. We wouldn't be talking about making another U23D and there are many bands out there with much less of a following than OTR that have managed to throw together pretty good dvd's of shows to package with CD's etc.---so i say continue to reply... I guess I'm not convinced that OTR has thought about it or really do believe that it would be worth their time to do it (financially).

I haven't read the responses that got people riled up. It just seemed like a no-go, so I'm asking:

I'm assuming one of the folks on here is recording the audio, right?

Why don't we all just bring some cameras, little tripods, and film it ourselves? My little microcamera takes 720p video at 30fps. If we get 6 or 7 angles at reasonable zoom, someone could edit it together with the well done audio - and PRESTO!

i think that would be:
a: fun
b: great
c: hilarious
d: an "interesting" as hell watch

we could all "draft" a song or two.

unfortunately, i think they maybe camera nazis there (from their website)...


and make sure you leave your wrenches and pliers at home too!

I'm in the front row. I'll bring a disposable.

I would!

Yeah, the whole leaving the boy scout knife at home always feels like a violation of my rights.

But as was sort of previously mentioned, yeah setting up a video worthy more than the die-hards takes some recockulous cheddar.

I will pitch this-
I'd be willing to trade bad-zombie-filmed OTR in huge theatre film and an extra wait on LFN3 on a board recording as a bonus download as LFN3 Pre Order.

My pie sense. Er, cents.

But still, it's Ohio, not the Wall (and I'm happy with that). I'm looking at the likely walk for a cigarette when she plays that song.

Doing something like doing a video of a show is a bit more problematic than simpy recording the audio purely from the technical aspect---usually when its done---they often will set up at least two performances so they can make sure that if something goes wrong with one night's video in certain sections--they can use a second night's performance as a back up----

At the very least----at this stage in the game---it was way too late I would think for a production company to be hired and to also take care of all of the logistics necessary to make a good quality video of a live musical performance.

They made a video a few years back of Cheryl Crow at the Fraze Pavillion in Dayton----and I think they may have only done one night's performance---but they were very lucky in that case in terms of the weather and the taping was planned far in advance----when they came out with that year's booklet listing the concert schedule for that year---they also noted that the show was going to be recorded.

Perhaps they could think about doing a show for that purpose later this year if K&L are so inclined and the schedule allows---I just don't think that it is at all feasible for this show to be taped at this late date, even though it seems to me to be a great idea.

It is going to be a bummer if we can't take our usual photos of the show----anyone going to get some verification on their policy at that venue in that regard??