QUOTE(TheOtherMe @ Jul 14 2006, 07:59 PM)

It sounds like a good time. Here we have at least 80 people on the emailing list, but no more than 30 ever show up for the Saturday ride(biggest one) because of the gearheads. Its the same reason I quit riding with them. There's no attempt to stay together or encourage newcomers. The club VP tried last year to have people raise their hands for avg speed groups, but the 16-18 group was always inevitably going 20-21 within the first 3 miles. Its great if you can hang, but if you can, forget it. You're dropped and no one cares. I got dropped my first ride with them, and I didn't know the route or where I was for that matter. No one cared. I've talked to several people who feel the same way. I'm considering starting a second group of people who actually want to enjoy the rides rather than pretend they're Robbie McEwen.
Jules, I've seen your comments many times on the same topic, and I have to say I don't get it. When I go on most of my rides, there are people that more or less plan to go fast, that are aiming for a specific range of speed (e.g., they say, "we average about 21 on this ride"). If I know that, and set out to ride with them, then why do they have a responsibility to slow down when I can't hang? If they like riding that fast then they're entitled. There's certainly no point riding below their skill levels. To me, saying that I'm annoyed because I got dropped feels like I'm just spitting sour grapes because I'm not as good as they are on the bike. So, I either aim for rides where I know the group (or at least part of the group) will be at my pace, or I get dropped and ride alone, or... better still.... I pedal faster and hang. But I certainly wouldn't hang back for somebody that was riding at, say, 12 mph on the flats, would you? So, where's the line? 14? 16? I believe their line is just higher.
Just my $0.02.
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Boy, I gotta say Americans look good in yellow.

Yeah, if but for a moment.