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b_lachey@hotmail.com
I heard someone at lunch talk about a new Star Wars movie coming out sometime soon. Is that true? You think I would have heard about it somewhere. What is their advertising budget - $14.25?
































Just kidding, by the way.


OH - and while we're on the topic. Won't you please consider joining me in my "Give George Lucas No More Of Your Hard Earned Cash" campaign I began waging in 1999 or so?

My plan is this:

I am only sneaking in to the theater after buying a ticket to anything non-George Lucas related Buy a ticket to ANYTHING else and sneak in to SW on a non-sold out showing. Remember, he's the guy who gave us Jar Jar Binks.. I'd consider buying a ticket to the J-Lo thing before SW3.

I did this for SW2 as well, bought a ticket to Spiderman and watched SW2...
kylie jo
oh, i wanna! that'd make us waaaaay cooler than the geeks!
Aaron
QUOTE(b_lachey@hotmail.com @ May 18 2005, 11:08 AM)
I am only sneaking in to the theater after buying a ticket to anything non-George Lucas related  Buy a ticket to ANYTHING else and sneak in to SW on a non-sold out showing.  Remember, he's the guy who gave us Jar Jar Binks..  I'd consider buying a ticket to the J-Lo thing before SW3.
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I don't know, I think J-lo is pretty damned evil.

Oh, and Kylie, I am proud to be a Star Wars Geek. blink.gif biggrin.gif rolleyes.gif ohmy.gif laugh.gif
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I'm doing it... buying a ticket for Hitchhiker's Guide...

I also did it for Celsius 41.1... I bought a ticket for Fahrenheit 9/11... biggrin.gif

~fff
bivester
the best thing about star wars. ever.

the old SNL skit w/bill murray doing "starrr warrrs, nothing but starrr warrrs" as the lounge singer.

too funny.
Brookd
shouldn't we rather be boycotting whoever it was that gave us J-lo?
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QUOTE(Brookd @ May 18 2005, 03:46 PM)
shouldn't we rather be boycotting whoever it was that gave us J-lo?

ah, Mr & Mrs Lo are good people. Mrs Lo makes a kick ass Mein.

~fff

np: john lennon - collection
bunnygirl
If I wanted to see this crazy new movie, I would do just what you propose. However, since I fell asleep during Ep. 1 and couldn't make it past Amidala and Anakin's romp in the hay in Ep. 2 before turning it off, I don't think I will make it out for this one.
I loved the old movies...such good times watching them. And simply can't stomach the new ones (ducks)

Plus, J-Lo isn't all that bad as an actress (ducks again)
taliendo
Truthfully I care less about this individual installment coming out, than being able to watch to movies together. I am v. interested to see what kind of continuity is present in the films and the flow the the storyline across six movies.

(and I agree J-Lo's not that bad an actress. Check out Out of Sight people!)
Daneel
i was just pondering how i might see the movie without paying for it! amazingly, i'd not even considered sneaking into a showing of it under the ticket stub of a superior film. i guess i was raised too honestly. i was thinking of downloading the thing.
FallingLeaf
Oh, good grief. George Lucas wouldn't notice if you took 100 million out of his savings account. Get a grip.

I'm gonna pay full price and slurp a soda. And I bet it's gonna be good, since he got so much grief over the sissy-ish nature of the last three (yes, 3!). Darker = better. Let's see some Darth BadAss.
kylie jo
QUOTE(FallingLeaf @ May 18 2005, 05:51 PM)
Oh, good grief.  George Lucas wouldn't notice if you took 100 million out of his savings account. 
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Let's uh, make that happen.
Aaron
Well, I am not paying full price at least. I am going to an afternoon showing, so I paid matinee price. 5.75, sheesh, I remember when an evening movie cost less than that!
LazyAsSin
So...my name's Steve and I'm a geek. I just got back from the midnight show and I am, well, a little underwhelmed. It was good and all, and it tied up loose ends, but for whatever reason I just didn't care as much this time around. I have to admit that I had much more fun people watching. There were some pretty amazing costumes and some that were remarkable for being not-so-impressive. We actually named a few of them: Girth Vader, Sloth Vader, and Queen Old-madala were my personal favorites. I took a bunch of photos and I'd post them, but unfortunately I'm in Virginia Beach and the little cable to connect my camera to my computer is home in St. Paul. Anyway...I hope others enjoy the film a little more than me!
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this is the best haircut for natalie portman ever... seriously...


i've always had a thing for short haired women...

~fff
patrik
She's playing yoda in the new film, right? I mean, those ears.

Patrik
eustacescrubb
QUOTE
I am v. interested to see what kind of continuity is present in the films and the flow the the storyline across six movies.


Actually, there's not a lot of continuity between Obi-Wan's accounts of Anakin in ep. 4 (e.g. "Your father was already an accomplished pilot when I met him" compared with Anakin being like 8 years old in ep. 1) and Obi-Wan calls Vader "Darth" like it's his first name instead of the his title as a Sith.
taliendo
QUOTE(posty mcposterton @ May 19 2005, 05:24 AM)
this is the best haircut for natalie portman ever... seriously...
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Damn-sk!

me too on the short hair thing. mmm, hmmm. wink.gif
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QUOTE(eustacescrubb)
Actually, there's not a lot of continuity between Obi-Wan's accounts of Anakin in ep. 4 (e.g. "Your father was already an accomplished pilot when I met him" compared with Anakin being like 8 years old in ep. 1)
He was accomplished, though, right? Even at age 8. The phrase "your father was already an accomplished pilot when I met him" doesn't seem to contradict anything related to his age in Ep 1.

Now, I wish Obiwan would've said "...and he has this dumbass alien friend who talks like a Jamaican and makes me regret ever hanging out with him long years ago, and if anyone ever were to view my life I wish they'd skip that part and not buy a ticket because it sucked... it really really sucked, Luke. I wouldn't wish that upon anyone, sweet Jesus..."

QUOTE(eustacescrubb)
and Obi-Wan calls Vader "Darth" like it's his first name instead of the his title as a Sith.
"Darth" is the etymological "combolation" of "dark" and "Sith." n'doy.

~fff
TicketToTheShow
Are you sure that is not Sinead Oconnor... blink.gif
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Pope Benedict is safe until Sinead's new album (currently in the works).

~fff

np: +live+ - secret samadhi
LazyAsSin
So does Pope Benedict remind anyone else of Emperor Palpatine? Also...I think Natalie looks better than Sinead did bald (and I thought Sinead was pretty hot) but I *really* prefer her with Garden State-length hair. That said...she will be mine, oh yes, she will be mine. rolleyes.gif
FallingLeaf
Just 'cause it's funny.... smile.gif

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similar to this one...


*cough * cough*
~fff

np: +live+ - v
eustacescrubb
QUOTE
He was accomplished, though, right? Even at age 8. The phrase "your father was already an accomplished pilot when I met him" doesn't seem to contradict anything related to his age in Ep 1.


Well, not literally, but having seen both movies recently, it's hard, given Obi-Wan's tone of voice and the general tone of that whole conversation, to think he meant Anakin was a child. Then there's stuff like Luke's lightdaber, supposedly something Anakin wanted Luke to have - even though I don't think Anakin ever uses a blue lightsaber. And Obi-Wan's description of training Anakin makes it sound like he chose to train Anakin, rather than Qui-Gon choosing to do so and then Yoda appointing Obi-Wan to finish it. Etc., etc.
TicketToTheShow
This was on a local radio stations website
Aaron
Wow, I am wetting my pants from that film! Seriously! My gosh! Wow! It will be interesting to see how the general public reacts to this installment - especially those who hated I and II.
The ending was great! Edited due to spoilers.
Gybe
Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith
Openned today here in God's Own (New Zealand)
Does this mean we get to see it first? tongue.gif
stivmc
QUOTE(eustacescrubb @ May 19 2005, 05:40 PM)
QUOTE
He was accomplished, though, right? Even at age 8. The phrase "your father was already an accomplished pilot when I met him" doesn't seem to contradict anything related to his age in Ep 1.


Well, not literally, but having seen both movies recently, it's hard, given Obi-Wan's tone of voice and the general tone of that whole conversation, to think he meant Anakin was a child. Then there's stuff like Luke's lightdaber, supposedly something Anakin wanted Luke to have - even though I don't think Anakin ever uses a blue lightsaber. And Obi-Wan's description of training Anakin makes it sound like he chose to train Anakin, rather than Qui-Gon choosing to do so and then Yoda appointing Obi-Wan to finish it. Etc., etc.
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Well...Obi Wan was pretty cryptic and made alot of stuff up in his old age wink.gif
J. Marie Hall
QUOTE(stivmc @ May 20 2005, 07:36 AM)
QUOTE(eustacescrubb @ May 19 2005, 05:40 PM)
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He was accomplished, though, right? Even at age 8. The phrase "your father was already an accomplished pilot when I met him" doesn't seem to contradict anything related to his age in Ep 1.


Well, not literally, but having seen both movies recently, it's hard, given Obi-Wan's tone of voice and the general tone of that whole conversation, to think he meant Anakin was a child. Then there's stuff like Luke's lightdaber, supposedly something Anakin wanted Luke to have - even though I don't think Anakin ever uses a blue lightsaber. And Obi-Wan's description of training Anakin makes it sound like he chose to train Anakin, rather than Qui-Gon choosing to do so and then Yoda appointing Obi-Wan to finish it. Etc., etc.
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Well...Obi Wan was pretty cryptic and made alot of stuff up in his old age wink.gif
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also, i wonder about the nature of training, obedience, personal choice based on wisdom/being truly plugged into the force.

it seems like younger masters etc. can suggest something and it's weighed. yoda even asks sometimes. i wonder if b/c of earned trust it might have been obi wan's choice eventually...not everyone trusted anakin or even always the prophecy (as we hear referenced in the third film). and remember the line "only the siths deal in absolutes" or something like that? that might be where a lot is left out for us to imagine. where truth becomes fluid.
taliendo
[mini-hj]

QUOTE(J. Marie Hall @ May 20 2005, 09:45 AM)
where truth becomes fluid.
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I really like that thought. smile.gif

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J. Marie Hall
QUOTE(taliendo @ May 20 2005, 09:52 AM)
[mini-hj]

QUOTE(J. Marie Hall @ May 20 2005, 09:45 AM)
where truth becomes fluid.
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I really like that thought. smile.gif

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me too, homes. the more i've ever meditated on the truth being (or becoming one with) a person, the more i consider it a live thing. water, fluid. i love the jedi thang b/c of the humility in the face of that and perhaps b/c of that.
askewphotography
I saw it opening night, I thought it was much better than Episodes 1 and 2. things that bothered me were: Way too much Computer Generated Animation I would guess about 75% of the film was from computer animation, horrible forced dialogue especially between Anakin and Padme(I think proving Lucas is a bad director because Portman looked like a bad actor.) And a few other assorted moments of cheesiness I won't mention to avoid spoiling too much.
Aaron
Did anyone see "Clone wars" (the animated series on Cartoon Network)? I watched the DVDs of it this morning, and some things about episode III make a little more sense now.
keith from ny
My wife and I just saw it. She liked it better than I did. I think LOTR has spoiled me as far as fantasy flicks go -- George Lucas certainly can't compete with Tolkien as a storyteller, and a lot of the acting and dialogue in all three installments of the SW prequel is pretty lame IMO. Even Samuel Jackson sounded really stilted in this movie. Some of the action sequences were pretty cool, and it's always fun to watch Yoda hopping around with his light saber.
stivmc
QUOTE(eustacescrubb @ May 19 2005, 05:40 PM)
Then there's stuff like Luke's lightdaber, supposedly something Anakin wanted Luke to have - even though I don't think Anakin ever uses a blue lightsaber.
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Watching Attack of the Clones right now...Anakin does have a blue lightsaber in Ep II...at least he did when went crazy on the tusken raiders...

sorry...just had to get that out... biggrin.gif
Aaron
QUOTE(stivmc @ May 22 2005, 05:46 PM)
QUOTE(eustacescrubb @ May 19 2005, 05:40 PM)
Then there's stuff like Luke's lightdaber, supposedly something Anakin wanted Luke to have - even though I don't think Anakin ever uses a blue lightsaber.
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Watching Attack of the Clones right now...Anakin does have a blue lightsaber in Ep II...at least he did when went crazy on the tusken raiders...

sorry...just had to get that out... biggrin.gif
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And he was constantly loosing lightsabers, so maybe this is one he lost. I wonder if he kept loosing light sabers when he was Darth Vader.
the arkitech
I saw it last week, and I was mildly impressed. Certainly better than the last two installments, but
not up to the first two. I have to say, I thought it telling that Lucas's climactic moment -- the moment
everything in this series was leading up to: Anakin putting on the suit and becoming Vader (I know he
was techincally given the name earlier, but he's just not Vader without the suit)... elicited *laughter*
in the theater. I mean, come on... "Nooooooo"???? George, what were you *thinking*???? I was
expecting something bone-chilling, like "Padme who?" or some sign that he was totally lost
to the Dark Side, and instead we get cheeseball camp. Really a crying shame.

And Saturday night I watched the first movie again. Dang, it really holds up, although I could do
without Greedo shooting first, and that scene with Jabba is completely superfluous. I mean, Han
says basically the same lines he just said to Greedo! But most of all, I am just not buying that Lucas
had *this* story in mind when he wrote that, unless he wanted to make Obi-Wan out to be a *complete*
liar. Okay, Sir Alec certainly did look shifty when he said Vader betrayed and murdered Luke's
father, but much of the other stuff made no sense. He gives Luke what he says is *Anakin's*
light saber, that Anakin wanted him to have. Total lie, according to Episode III. If you go by what
Obi-Wan says in Episode IV, you get the picture that he met Anakin as an adult (or at least as
an adolescent) and *convinced* him to go off "on some fool crusade", while his brother Owen
stayed home, disapproving. That bears no resemblence whatsoever to the story we see in
Episodes I, II, and III. The only way you can retcon this stuff is that Obi-Wan is lying through
his teeth, not only about Darth Vader killing Luke's father, but about everything else. Which is too
bad, because I honestly think the story Obi-Wan tells in Episode IV is better than what we see
in Episodes I,II, and III. :-)

But the action was fun, although the physics in the opening sequence was appalling. Air drag in
space? The depiction of the artificial gravity was wildly inconsistent. Once the ship goes into free
fall, "down" should not have rotated, everything should have started floating around. General
Grievous's cape blows around in the "wind" outside the ship. Just out of curiosity, why does a
ship completely run by robots need air inside of it at all? I found the use "younglings" instead
of "children" to be jarring, and I just wasn't buying that Anakin would be willing to slaughter
children in the hope of learning enough to save Padme. Maybe we're supposed to believe that
he had gone far enough down the Dark Path that he'd lost all sense of morality, but the film
didn't *show* me that in a believable way. Not at that stage in his development. The Darth
Vader on the volcano planet -- now *that* character I could have believed was that far gone,
but not the one on Coruscant. Ah, well, I'll still go see it again. It wasn't atrocious. It is kinda
sad that I can get this excited about a reaction that's basically summed as "well, at least it
didn't suck *too* badly". :-) The betrayal of the Jedi was effectively heart-breaking.

See ya.
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QUOTE(the arkitech @ May 23 2005, 03:15 PM)
The only way you can recon this stuff is that Obi-Wan is lying through his teeth, not only about Darth Vader killing Luke's father, but about everything else.

Not replying to the rest of what you said, but I don't think you have to take "Darth Vader killed your father" as a literal death/kill situation. The soul/sith purposes of the dark side in Darth Vader took over the good/jedi purposes in Anakin... I don't view what Obiwan said in Ep 4 as a literal Darth killing of Anakin. Which, obviously, it isn't.

More of a killing of his soul or something.

~fff - np: aimee mann - lost in space
MyWaterMyWine
I am waiting for the next star wars trilogy

episode 3.25
gardening on the outer rim

episode 3.5
jar jar binks extreme makeover

episode 3.75
obi wan vs. bat man
eustacescrubb
I haven't seen Episode III yet. I have seen the Clone Wars cartoons - they rocked. And yes, I looked back at Ep. II and saw Anakin's lightsaber was blue - thought it had been green, but I was wrong.

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If you go by what
Obi-Wan says in Episode IV, you get the picture that he met Anakin as an adult (or at least as
an adolescent) and *convinced* him to go off "on some fool crusade", while his brother Owen
stayed home, disapproving. That bears no resemblence whatsoever to the story we see in
Episodes I, II, and III.


Precisely.
patrik
I sort of like the ethical twist: sort of showing that relativism - the idea that good and evil is just about your point of view - is in itself evil.

And I almost cheered when the 60's soviet army uniforms made their entrance in on of the last scenes. That was SO COOL.

Somebody worte somewhere that for a 28 year old to go and see this movie is all about proving that you're true to your childhood. That totally makes sense to me.

Patrik
the arkitech
QUOTE(patrik @ May 24 2005, 12:35 AM)
I sort of like the ethical twist: sort of showing that relativism - the idea that good and evil is just about your point of view - is in itself evil.


Really? How do you interpret "Only a Sith deals in absolutes"?
patrik
That's exactly it: Anakin, excuse me, Vader said: "If you're not with me, you're my enemy". Complete subjectivist relativism. Whereas the jedis tried to uphold a morality that is not based on perspective but something super-personal good.

Patrik
the arkitech
QUOTE(patrik @ May 24 2005, 12:41 PM)
That's exactly it: Anakin, excuse me, Vader said: "If you're not with me, you're my enemy". Complete subjectivist relativism. Whereas the jedis tried to uphold a morality that is not based on perspective but something super-personal good.



Ah, I see. I thought you were referring to Palpatine saying that the Jedi and the Sith were both
just points of view, rather than truly good and evil, and that one had a duty to explore both sides
before making a judgement.
the arkitech
I also find it interesting that some people are seeing this film as a criticism of the Bush Administration.
I mean, from day one (1999) it was clear to me that Lucas was drawing his political inspiration from
Hitler's rise to power in Germany. The manufactured crisis, the "temporary" assumption of
absolute power, for the "safety" of the country, the massive military buildup, the conjuring up of
scapegoats and an outside enemy... be it Star Wars or Babylon 5, if you want to tell a story about
how a republic becomes an Empire, you don't have to look all the way back to Rome and Caeser.

I'm certainly not saying Bush is a Nazi, but if a plot inspired by Hitler makes people think of Bush...
well, it's gotta make ya think, don't it?
joshua
just saw it. loved it. my favourite of the new 3, perhaps overall as well.

still mulling it all over and taking it in...
WalrusOct9
Revenge Of The Sith: The Abridged Script

http://ter.air0day.com/?script=revengeofthesith
bivester
i just can't get excited about this, no interest in seeing it. none.

maybe katie or angelina should have dated one of the stars...
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