drew
Feb 5 2005, 05:39 PM
Discuss it here!
DanceWithoutMe
Feb 5 2005, 06:33 PM
Well. Hmm. I can't wait until it comes out! I'm very excited about this one.
DustyVolume
Feb 6 2005, 12:43 AM
I spent the better part of an hour looking through the "bargain bin" of the local used store for a discarded promo copy that some ignorant program manager might have traded or sold (as they're so prone to do), but alas nothing yet! Still trying though.
amcorrea
Feb 6 2005, 02:00 PM
I posted this elsewhere before I found this thread. Here's
an early review...
FloridaGirl
Feb 6 2005, 02:32 PM
I am so eager to hear this album I'm on the verge of exploding with pent-up anticipation. If only they would post the lyrics a little in advance ... or maybe an mp3?
I think I need to set several hours aside on March 29 to listen and weep.
WalrusOct9
Feb 6 2005, 03:18 PM
Good review, although I could do without the Innocence Mission comparison.
I'm interested to hear what he describes as a "
Love Is Blindness" for piano. That's a pretty bold statement, IMO...
Brookd
Feb 6 2005, 04:22 PM
part of the comment afterwords made me laugh:
"For the sake of my relationship with my parents, could tell me if this Over the Rhine album has any f-words on it?"
WalrusOct9
Feb 6 2005, 04:38 PM
My god...
Just when I think the country can't get any more uptight....
«°¤°»
Feb 6 2005, 04:43 PM
It was originally gonna be called
Fuċkin' Drunkard's Prayer... so...
probably...
~fff
DustyVolume
Feb 6 2005, 06:11 PM
QUOTE(walrus Feb 6 2005 @ 04:22 PM)
My god...
Just when I think the country can't get any more uptight....
Yeah, it's called
sensibility. Get to know it.
WalrusOct9
Feb 6 2005, 06:45 PM
QUOTE(DustyVolume @ Feb 6 2005, 05:11 PM)
Yeah, it's called
sensibility. Get to know it.
Sensibility would be not caring if someone says 'fu*k' on a CD. It's just a word. Get over it, people.
Jeffrey Overstreet
Feb 6 2005, 06:48 PM
Hey, folks. Jeffrey here.
The Innocence Mission comparison: I mentioned that just to describe the intimate quality of the recording. Karin B. doesn't SOUND like Karen P. And thank goodness... they're both distinct and irreplaceable talents.
As I continue listening to it, other echoes are coming through. You could almost describe this as OtR's "The Trinity Sessions." I can imagine Cowboy Junkies covering a couple of these tracks. (Anybody else think they had it backwards a few years ago ... that the Junkies should have been opening for OTR, and not the other way around?)
I've posted the same text at the
Looking Closer music page, with the little album cover .jpg.
euro60
Feb 7 2005, 11:19 AM
Thanks Jeffrey, excellent early impressions!
bethany
Feb 7 2005, 04:57 PM
Jeffrey: I love your writing.
I can't wait until this album comes out!
sssshhhh
Feb 8 2005, 04:22 PM
do L&K like The Willard Grant Conspiracy?
they have a song by the same title as the new album.
I like them. the lead singer bloke has a fantastic voice.
thanks
sssshhhh
jholland
Feb 8 2005, 04:34 PM
QUOTE(sssshhhh @ Feb 8 2005, 05:22 PM)
do L&K like The Willard Grant Conspiracy?
they have a song by the same title as the new album.
The Willard Grant Conspiracy opened for Over the Rhine when I saw them in 2001, so I'd say it's safe to say they are aware of them.
Jeff
Brigadier
Feb 12 2005, 12:05 AM
I can't wait ... anyone have a time machine? Another album of such songs as "Latter Days" and "Bothered" (two of my favorite OTR songs, and that's saying alot since of the 110 or so in my iTunes collection, 70 are currently rated at 4 stars or higher). I may have to put this one in constant repeat and sit back on the coach, just soaking it in.
Good thing that the local shop should have it in on the release date ... maybe even a day before (crossing fingers)
Trudes
Feb 16 2005, 03:14 PM
Well...it's official.
"Born" is my new favorite song. I'm playing the MP3 over and over.
Got the lyrics memorized already.
Karin...you're amazing.
bivester
Feb 16 2005, 03:19 PM
QUOTE(FloridaGirl @ Feb 16 2005, 02:43 PM)
PASTE HAS FREE MP3S
HERE!
*dies*
fyi-becky posted link above on another thread...
born. amazing.
born. beautiful.
Trudes
Feb 16 2005, 03:23 PM
The new version of Drunkard's Prayer has brought tears to my closed eyes.
Thanks Karin and Linford for this little peek.
MyWaterMyWine
Feb 16 2005, 03:29 PM
All's I know is that song, BORN, makes me all misty. I am really trying to keep it together since I am at work. Folks would take a second look if i just started bawling.
michelle
Feb 16 2005, 03:44 PM
I don't know what else I can add to the comments already made by others about the mp3's. I will, however, verify now, this early, that I am indeed screwed when this CD comes out. I'm going to be a weeping, questioning, feeling, lost mess.
And I still say, bring it on.
There are those handfull of stumbles people take in their lives where they wind up taking/receiving things unexpected from their fall - one of them for me is the drop over 4 years ago that left me with the discovery of Over the Rhine. I can't imagine being alive and unaware of this band.
secretly just me
Feb 16 2005, 04:55 PM
QUOTE(michelle @ Feb 16 2005, 01:44 PM)
I can't imagine being alive and unaware of this band.
yes.
zoey
Feb 16 2005, 05:54 PM
QUOTE(secretly just me @ Feb 16 2005, 01:55 PM)
QUOTE(michelle @ Feb 16 2005, 01:44 PM)
I can't imagine being alive and unaware of this band.
yes.
sometimes i'll be listening to OTR in my car and look at people in their cars around me and actually get all sad for them that they don't know about OTR. their lives can't be complete.
b_lachey@hotmail.com
Feb 16 2005, 06:11 PM
Bring the people in the cars around you to an OTR show, and then get all cringey when you realize they aren't enjoying it.
For whatever reason OTR hypnotizes us, it is polarized for a greater mass of people. It's perplexing indeed, but I've witnessed it enough to know how it works. I've seriously brought over 100 people to OTR shows. How many has it stuck for? 4 I think.
That's a great statement though - "I can't imagine being alive and unaware of this band." One of life's greatest mysteries remains: "What is wrong with the majority of people?!?"
taliendo
Feb 16 2005, 07:34 PM
Bruce, you never fail to crack my shit up.
DJDelicious
Feb 16 2005, 07:59 PM
QUOTE(michelle @ Feb 16 2005, 02:44 PM)
I don't know what else I can add to the comments already made by others about the mp3's. I will, however, verify now, this early, that I am indeed screwed when this CD comes out. I'm going to be a weeping, questioning, feeling, lost mess.
And I still say, bring it on.
i know. i can't stop playing Drunkard's Prayer, and everytime i hear it, all i want to do is to be held and allowed to cry. *sigh* so beautiful...so very touching and beautiful.
Trudes
Feb 16 2005, 08:33 PM
The piano sounds like the spinet.
Karin voice is so dreamy.
The cello...the background...like a dream....so sad.
This album is going to my favorite if these two tracks are representative of the style.
This album should be on vinyl.
I so wish I could see them live on tour for this album.
sigh
DustyVolume
Feb 17 2005, 03:02 AM
oh my god.
oh my god.
oh my god.
oh my god
oh my god!
The title track's been off for five minutes and my whole body's still covered in chills. Are we allowed to feel this deeply? I mean as human beings, are we really supposed to feel this depth of emotion? I don't mean to be crass, but to the atheists in the house, how can you hear Karin's voice andnot know there's a God?
I'm not even capable of being coherent right now. I have to sign off and just totally lose it.
Karin, Linford: Thank God you found each other, and thank God I found you.
Oh my gohhhhhhd...
(I'm actually shivering now)
drew
Feb 18 2005, 08:24 AM
I've just come off twice-spinning the pre-release of this album. The first time through was to just listen. The second time was to listen for messages and meanings.
It is an amazing piece. The cohesiveness, the progression, the
journey, and the simplicity of this recording are masterworks.
I remember interviewing
Ryan Adcock about one of his new recordings and asking why he chose not to have song numbers on the liner. He explained that this album wasn't stand-alone songs. I believe that DRUNKARD'S PRAYER should be listened to entirely in one sitting. These tracks are not stand-alone songs; they're illuminations on the journey.
While this album may not be a chart-topper like their others, it shows a deeply personal, intimate relationship. I believe that this recording could have been made only at home.
I will post more of my thoughts and possibly a full-blown review soon.
bunnygirl
Feb 19 2005, 12:00 AM
Here is the thing. What I loved about GDBD is that it was the CD I wanted to fall asleep to every night and wake up to every morning. From those two MP3's I have the distinct suspicion that DP is going to be of the same caliber.
Bad Dog
Feb 21 2005, 01:45 AM
QUOTE(zoey @ Feb 16 2005, 05:54 PM)
sometimes i'll be listening to OTR in my car and look at people in their cars around me and actually get all sad for them that they don't know about OTR. their lives can't be complete.
Me too! As a passionate fan of music (like many/everybody here), I really feel it's my duty to tell my loved ones about the marvel found in this band. I'm inching my way, one by one, carefully selecting the right tracks for each individual's introduction...
This isn't just music, and it's not just music & poetry. It's emotions, somehow captured & set loose to influence my ears... and it makes me happy when it makes me sad.
Elemental
Feb 21 2005, 02:49 AM
QUOTE(Bad Dog @ Feb 21 2005, 12:45 AM)
This isn't just music, and it's not just music & poetry. It's emotions, somehow captured & set loose to influence my ears... and it makes me happy when it makes me sad.
I think when an artist can convey emotions purely, without themselves getting in the way, that's when they've mastered their art. When I listen to this song, I tend to get lost in the emotions...not the music. It's like all the mediums (music, voices, and words) combine and create this feeling inside me. I think I'm in love.
The music itself is spacious. Linford's playing is kinda in the background, with this sorta three dimensional sound...and Karin is right up front and center. Like she's singing right in front of me. I almost feel like I could dance in the space between them.
kylie jo
Feb 21 2005, 11:00 PM
I've just listened to the mp3's. Wow.
It's amazing how pain can turn into something so beautiful.
michelle
Feb 22 2005, 01:19 PM
I'll be surprised if it turns out to be Linford playing piano on DP. Every time I've seen it played live it's like when she does Ohio and Remind Us - Linford and whoever else is playing with them leaves the stage and it's just K and the keys.
b_lachey@hotmail.com
Feb 22 2005, 05:37 PM
Yeah, I'll bet it will be like B.P.D., Ohio and Remind Us with Karin playing the keys on the album too.
Scott805
Feb 22 2005, 09:45 PM
Where can I get the Mp3 for Drunkard's Prayer?
Thanks
Scott
kylie jo
Feb 22 2005, 09:52 PM
kentuckiannna
Feb 23 2005, 08:54 AM
As Ray's recording agent said in the movie, my "slip is showing." I've got an addiction for Born and Drunkard's Prayer that could put to shame any herion junkie. I expect to be reeling in DTs any moment. When the heck is that release date? I got a jones, I need it.
kentuckiannna
Feb 23 2005, 09:55 AM
QUOTE(DustyVolume @ Feb 17 2005, 03:02 AM)
I don't mean to be crass, but to the atheists in the house, how can you hear Karin's voice and
not know there's a God?
Mark, I know you posted this out of your enthusiasm and inspiration, and I almost let this go, figuring it was petty in the midst of the wonder that is the new music. However, an idea struck me as I moved about my morning, and I thought I'd share it in the spirit of learning from each other and the exchange that is communication. My thought was thus:
How can you hear Karin's voice (or Linford's music--which doesn't get as much attention but is every bit as important) and not be struck by the mystery and humility? To me, that's what this band is about as much as anything, this modeling that they do as they give us their art. I like that much better than, "Hey stupid, do ya get it now?"
secretly just me
Feb 23 2005, 11:56 AM
QUOTE(drew @ Feb 18 2005, 06:24 AM)
I've just come off twice-spinning the pre-release of this album.
LUCKYYYYYYY!
b_lachey@hotmail.com
Feb 23 2005, 06:29 PM
QUOTE
LUCKYYYYYYY!
Gosh!
and more:
Napoleon Dynamite soundboard
Brigadier
Feb 24 2005, 02:26 PM
All I can say is 'woah'. I guess my iPod shuffle isn't going to be shuffling much for the next few hours - just back and forth between the two free MP3s.
This may be one of those albums I have to restrain listening to until I can get home, turn down the lights, turn on the stereo and just bathe in. At least, based on those two samples. Is there no way to make March 29th come any sooner?
DustyVolume
Feb 24 2005, 04:16 PM
QUOTE(kentuckiannna @ Feb 23 2005, 09:55 AM)
Mark, I know you posted this out of your enthusiasm and inspiration, and I almost let this go, figuring it was petty in the midst of the wonder that is the new music. However, an idea struck me as I moved about my morning, and I thought I'd share it in the spirit of learning from each other and the exchange that is communication. My thought was thus:
How can you hear Karin's voice (or Linford's music--which doesn't get as much attention but is every bit as important) and not be struck by the mystery and humility? To me, that's what this band is about as much as anything, this modeling that they do as they give us their art. I like that much better than, "Hey stupid, do ya get it now?"
Anna B,
Thanks, I do want to learn, and I know already that Over the Rhine can be many things to many people. I actually meant no malice toward anyone with that comment. The God of whom I speak is so much bigger than anything else I can fathom, including mystery and humility, that I mentioned him out of awe for the gifts he's given to Karin and Linford, which, to me, are irrefutably his. If you feel differently, I respect your freedom to do so.
Again, my comment was not meant to divide. If it doesn't apply to you, or if you took it be be petty or offensive, then I'm truly sorry. I guess it's kind of hard to
separate the sun from the sunlight, as it were. We all proselytize the things we care about the most. Surely in the spirit of learning, you too can appreciate my comment for what it was without viewing it as divisive. It was just my only way of communicating the big ideas and emotions as I understand them and how they apply to my personal experiences when I hear the music. That was all.
The music is beautiful, and much more than mystery and humility could ever embody for me. It wasn't my
ability to bring God into the mix that made me post that, but my
inability to fathom anything else as powerful.
«°¤°»
Feb 24 2005, 04:29 PM
oy vey.
michelle
Mar 3 2005, 01:22 PM
Review on amazon.com QUOTE
After the heavily produced Films for Radio and the sprawling double CD Ohio, Over the Rhine retrenches for this stunning follow-up. Recorded in the living room of the duo's home, the low-key glow that results brings the music even closer to its source. Bits of folk, jazz, pop, and country intermingle as the singing and songwriting husband-and-wife partnership of Karin Bergquist and Linford Detweiler let the sparkling, yet subtle melodies of these ten originals--plus a lovely cover of "My Funny Valentine"--dictate the sparse instrumentation and languid but never haphazard tempos.
This is music of delicate beauty, tinged with regret, sadness, and hope, yet devoid of pretense. It sounds like these songs fell out of the sky, drifting through the clouds and arriving with help from Bergquist's exquisite voice. Her double-tracked vocals dart through tinkling piano lines on "Born," making the already exquisite song shimmer. Stand-up bass and occasional cello and sax along with a dash of percussion bolster these chamber-styled ballads that float like lilies on a pond. But there's a flickering intensity to like "Firefly," in which Bergquist repeats "My memory will not fail me now," that adds an edgy tautness to this emotionally stirring album. --Hal Horowitz
b_lachey@hotmail.com
Mar 3 2005, 05:44 PM
Bring on the edgy tautness! Can't wait!
michelle
Mar 4 2005, 06:58 PM
New York Daily NewsQUOTE
Duo's stage chemistry is long-term love affair
By BREANNE L. HELDMAN
DAILY NEWS FEATURE WRITER
A love story takes the stage at Mercury Lounge Sunday.
Over the Rhine - the name is a nod to the artsy neighborhood where they met in their hometown of Cincinnati - played their first show in 1990.
Karin Bergquist and Linford Detweiler were married six years later.
At the end of the month, the jazzy pop/rock duo (backed by an assortment of musicians live and on record) releases "Drunkard's Prayer," an intensely personal offering and their 11th CD.Eleven of the tracks were cut in the comfort of their living room.
The CD is about surviving a near-split.
"Like any sort of long-term commitment, there's a learning curve," Detweiler says. "We recorded this double album ['Ohio'], and were really excited about it. We were sort of caught up in the music, traveling together and working hard together, but there just wasn't a lot left over for just us.
"We realized that we were running out of gas in terms of our relationship."
So, toward the end of 2003, rather than allowing their marriage - and possibly their careers - to fizzle, they called off the rest of a tour and returned home. They spent time with therapists, individually and together, and read helpful books. The song "Born" on "Drunkard's Prayer" details one of the devices they used to reconnect - simply talking face-to-face through a bottle of wine almost nightly.
"A long-term commitment is coin-operated, it's lots of little connections on an ongoing basis," says Detweiler. "We had to relearn that working together is not the same as nurturing a relationship.
"We had to learn to stay connected every day and find ways to do that while on tour. Fortunately for us, we were able to make a fresh start and reprioritize things. Our relationship has never been stronger. This record is a celebration of that."
The opening track, "I Want You to Be My Love," is a soft and simple statement of the conscious choice the couple made to continue their marriage and their partnership.
After touring to promote "Drunkard's Prayer," they'll return to a new home outside of Cincinnati with plans to start a family.
"I think we're gonna really get serious about that, probably later this year," Detweiler says. "We're ready to continue to see our life at home evolve in good ways."
Originally published on March 4, 2005
DustyVolume
Mar 4 2005, 10:55 PM
My mouth actually watered after reading that Amazon review. I kid you not. Wow.
zayne
Mar 7 2005, 12:01 AM
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