was it all just a long, fuzzy dream?

Bill gets a A+++ for that image!

nah baby, it was REAL!

Dreams could never be that good.

<hj> WAIT! Stop the presses...is that a Bradley U. shirt? as in...the private college in Peoria, IL? hmm? my hometown?!!!! </hj>

yes, it's a joke for a buddy of his... named Bradley...

ah yes - I was GOING to ask if it was a. a thrift store find or b. some other random coincidence. Heh.

It's a big school! I travel to strange places a lot for work, and I was at Caterpillar once in Peoria and saw the Bradley sign off the highway. I had to stop. My pal Brad (who a few of these goofballs met on Friday's CST show) always would get psyched when Bradley was announced for NCAA basketball seeds.

So I stopped and visited the school and got him a baseball Braves shirt, and me that one.

oh yes...the shows. two evenings of incredible music by incredible artists, shared by incredible people.

...

i think [hope] jeanne and dave will be adding more show pics. i had trouble w/the very low light.

a few of the "chic-a-dees", kylie and mariesa are also among the "chic-a-dees" (as named by karin).

the olsen twins [btw keith, the "hot" one is on the right...]

(kylie...why are you so hot?)

the group @ fountain square in cinti...

"the genius of water"

Funny, this part of my dream was very clear...

but this part was kinda blurry...

...and there was cake...

and smiles

Seriously, Bill's right about the low light. It made for a lot of blurry pictures, some of which look very arty, but most of which do not. Still, there were enough that turned out fine. I'll be sending some to the Drew™; I hope by tomorrow or Wednesday.

Oh yeah...did you guys do a birthday cake for Linford!!! Super cool! Thanks for helping him celebrate...it warms my heart to know how much you all care for my big brother (in-law).

yep. and he had five or six girls [dubbed "the chicadees" by karin] deliver it on stage to him. he smiled a lot.

Kimberly was there??

as i said in the other thread you felt compelled to post this picture in...

i really [strongly] feel that it is wrong to associate them as being for, or "pro" bush/cheney in anyway, when they clearly have stated otherwise. imho, the image w/the "bush/cheney" button on karin & the "bush/cheney" logo superimposed on their pic is just wrong. very wrong. and not funny.

also, there are political threads to talk politics if that is your desire, could we keep it out of the show related threads please?

btw, it's STILL not funny.

This is funny? So I gather it's OK with you if Linford and Karin put a Kerry/Edwards sticker on your car?

Parenthetically, I know quite a few Texans who aren't voting for Bush.

Yes, on Saturday night. And nimrodcooper bought your tickets for both nights from me. I wish you and Trudy and about half the board (the ones that post with any regularity) could have been there. It was a blast!

And he shared it with us after the show. Unfortunately we forgot to buy some paper plates & plastic forks, so we had to eat it with our fingers. But it was great fun.

WOW, yeah I see the connection. Because obviously someone defacing my car would be the same as me exercising free speech in an Internet forum...

It's really sad you folks are so uptight and don't have a sense of humor about this. It's not like I started this out of the blue. If an artist is going to make pointed, partisan political comments - nay, attacks ("Texas is a scary place") - during a show, that artist (if they have any intelligence) is sure to know there is going to be backlash. And I know K&L are intelligent people.

All the same... to climb above all the foolishness, I'll be big enough to apologize AGAIN for any hurt feelings. I consider them your issue and not mine, but nonetheless, it wasn't my intent to bother anyone. At least, not to a greater degree than I was bothered by paying money to fly a thousand miles from home to listen to an artist make fun of my state and my political views.

Again... when K&L keep politics out of their shows, I'll stop responding about politics in the show-related forums.

the irony (yes, i do know what it means) of your getting bent out for shape about Karin's offhand, smartass (my word, not hers) and humorous to some of us, remark about texas, then critizing us for "not having a sense of humor", for being "foolish"? etc. pretty funny, much funnier that that offensive pic of yours.
ahh, the irony and hypocracy...

btw, i think she was clearly stating her opinion, not anyone else's. she was far more expressing her thoughts, her beliefs rather than attacking or "making fun" of anyone's politics.

but, i shall no longer feed the trolls...

Oh, good grief, give a rest both of you. Take it to PM if you have to.

Look, I'm not bent out of shape. I took Karin's comments for what they were: offhand and smartass. To tell the truth, I laughed out loud when she made the Texas comment. It was funny! I got it. (BTW I lived in the Dayton area for 5 years before recently moving to TX. I really don't have all that much "Texan pride".)

I'm just responding to her humor with the same kind of humor. The little picture is "offhand" and "smartass". If I'm not as good at it as she is, well... that's why she's on stage and I'm in the crowd.

What I don't like is the double-standard being presented here. The artists can charge people money for a live music performance where they can express their views tongue-in-cheek... yet I'm not supposed to express mine here with a similar kind of wit? Help me out, is that irony or hypocrisy?

"I thought that we'd be further along by now..."

Okay, since you asked nicely.



It's neither. Presentation matters. That doesn't just refer to the thing itself, but the "where" as well. I noted in another thread here in the Show Related forum that Karin got political and then I noted that I did want to talk about it and I would take it to the political forum when I had time to do so. Why? Because I respect that this forum is worth preserving. To assist in that, I choose not to be provocative in any way and try to carefully consider the feelings of everyone when I post stuff here. If it seems it might be inflammatory, I'll reconsider posting it at all or will take it to an appropriate forum.

You seem like a nice preson and I'm sorry you were bothered (heh) by Karin's words. It seems to me like the political comments were quite minor compared to all the kick-ass beauty of the shows this weekend, and I wonder if this particular discussion is distracting everyone from seeing that.

My five cents, USD, adjusted for inflation,
belly

Oh, and I predict a 65% chance that you'll use my presentation matters comments to say something along the lines of, "Right. She shouldn't have said it at the shows." Maybe so, but the way I see it, she made her comments in a matter of minutes and it was over. This, however, is dominating the conversation here.

She may have been refering to tornados and hail storms...

my point when i orginally brought this point up. that's why i suggested the political threads.

i was also hoping that the pic misrepresenting K&L would disappear...

You didn't really use "a similar kind" of wit, though... did you?

She didn't say "benjudy thinks texas is a scary place"...

~fafs

"Dominating the conversation?" Suggesting the political threads... My gosh. Do you all not see you're the ones perpetuating this with each and every reply? *lol*

I don't have a problem with it.

Look, I really don't want hard feelings and some of you have made some good points. My cheesy picture was pretty inflammatory, but that's my personality. I was hoping we could all chuckle a bit and move on. Guess I was wrong. I've already apologized twice and that's all you're getting out of me.

Since the picture was offensive to some, I pulled it off the board and replaced it with a hyperlink.



Point taken. You've got something there.

However, there is something to be said for the fact that K&L are "celebrities" of sorts. They're the ones up on the stage. They used that stage and their hold over an audience to espouse a certain viewpoint. When public figures do that (be it in music, film, politics, wherever...) they do so knowing that they open themselves to criticism beyond what an "average Joe on the street" (or Internet bulletin board) would expect. It's just how the world works, I think it's common knowledge.

The not-so-subtle implication in Karin's Texas comment was that Texans are largely conservatives / Bush supporters, and that's scary. At least, that's how I took it. But I knew it was a joke! And so was the picture.

is it my imagination, or is bruce copping a feel there?


just askin'

I think we should ask Kylie.
Was as good for you as it was for Bruce?
Hey...sometimes groping is FUN!

Well, she looks like she's enjoying it...

And while Anna may talk a good story, I have an interesting group of pictures here:

a ring, and a kiss...

a little flirtation...

and jealous Anna!

Make it stop! Make it stop! I can't breath! Damn you, Jeanne, my abs are still sore!

That was awesome.

And in a bizzare coincidence, as I quickly scrolled down your post, I misread the link to your web site as "Sapphos."

ok, RE: bruce copping a feel.... i'm trying to recall enjoying the moment... NOPE! as much as i'd like to say he got a piece, he did not.

i did enjoy that ace-smackin' tho!

wha...?

do i really have to say it...??

Bruce is a sexy beast, I can't help myself.

It's my cross to bear!

Hmmm...maybe I should start listening to more Duran Duran. I mean, hey, it worked for Bruce.