I set the ole Tivo! to record this on the 22nd on ABC. Anyone else have any insights or want to come back here after and discuss?

Me...me!!
It sounds good and we plan to watch, too.

I'll check it out....I didn't know when it was going to start airing though...thanks for the heads up..

I am at least going to give this one a chance because:

1. It is not a cop, lawyer, doctor show

2. It has Merry from LOTR!

Dusty--I think you and I are kindred spirits when it comes to TV. Were you a Buffy fan too? X-Files?

You may have something there. I can watch the occasional Law and Order or ER, but steer me to pure Fantasy anyday.

I came to the Whedon party a little late, but yes. I'm actively tivo-ing all the re-runs on cable and I just bought the firefly DVD, and season 4 Angel DVD.

As for x files, I have an interest, but due to time constraints, I made a conscious decision not to watch it. One can only watch so much TV before the rest of their life starts to suffer.

Definitely gonna be watching this one....

Post-show:

Well, I thought it was a good start but I definitely want to see more. They maybe should have gone for a longer premiere. Still, my interest was piqued!
Anyone catch Weiss as the dead pilot?
What are your guesses as to "the thing"?
What is up with the hobbit being maybe a troublemaker (running down the aisle, randomly vanishing and reappearing)?
Who is really annoyed already with the irritating not pregnant blonde girl?
What do you guys think?

Spoiler

And what about the dog?
I'm thinking the dog might either belong to a previous/current inhabitant of the island, or the dog IS the thing.
Was the hobbit the person running down the aisle before the plane started having trouble? The flight attendant tried to stop him.
When he went into the bathroom on the fragment of fuselage before the pilot was ripped away, he had no answer to the girl when she asked what was going on.
Yet, he was a recognizable rock star...hmmmmm...a likely disguise?
Cool show. I will keep watching. I wish it was on HBO...no commercials.
Oh and pregnant lady's tummy looked way too big I thought.

Fun show...I'll keep watching for a while. As it is right now I can't see this going very far. Maybe half a season. Perhaps it would have been better as a mini-series?

And who knows, they may surprise me...

Thoughts on the comments above:

I think they are being a bit to obvious with "the hobbit" being the troublemaker...A bit of a tease for the audience maybe. As for his disappearance into the bathroom, he probably had something "illegal" hidden in there and was anxious to get it back. The reason he jumped at the chance to go with them.

The dog is the wierdest factor for me...what is up with that? It even looked like it had a collar on in the first scene...I'll need to watch it again...

How pregnant is that woman supposed to be, I did not catch her answer when asked.

No idea what "the thing" is, but I was thinking back to Jurassic Park throughout the last 20 minutes of the show.

The HBO thing? Nah. I am tired of good shows being on pay channels. I can live with the commercials if I don't have to pay an extra $10 a month.

We'll see what happenes next week.

Hi folks,

I think it's actually not that uncommon for passengers to "crate" their dogs and ship them in the lower baggage compartment while travelling. This would explain how the dog came to be on the island.

I can agree, that since we saw several shots of the dog, it could indicate his/her role of significance in the show, but somehow I doubt it. The other weak plot devices that I noticed: body falling from the locked door, pilot being found alive after 16 hours only to get eaten, the stock "heroic" doctor, the scowling closeup shot of who will undoubtedly later become the antagonist, etc. only seems to indicate nothing too stellar on the horizon for this show. Then, I have been wrong before.

Overall, I'd have to give the show a C+ if I was grading it. Only time will tell though.

Oh and btw, I've been hanging out for a few days reading the diverse topics here in this forum. I admit you're an intriguing lot. I'll be hanging out here and there in the future and joining in on some discussions as I have time. I hope we can get to know each other.


Best,
Griff

Welcome, Griff....
Thanks for joining in.
We'd love to hear more from you.
Won't you post an intro of sorts over in the Member Bios forum...? There's a bunch of apples who never go near anything resembling a TV, so your post in this forum will go unnoticed by many.
Nice to hear from you.

Hey Griff...definately, welcome! Hope to get to know you better...

Agh...I missed it! Oh well, I was having coffee with a friend...I had my priorities in line, I guess!

[Not that the rest of you don't! I had to edit that so it didn't sound snotty!]

Well actually I missed it last night too...Paige was not having a good night...but I recorded it on my DVR box and watched this morning before I came to work...

In fact, I have started doing this with any show that I really want to watch. It never fails that I won't get to sit through an entire episode of anything anymore.

BTW; You didn't sound too snotty.

I missed it on my Tivo. Some crazy direct tv mixup, but luckily my fiance caught it on her Tivo, so I got to watch it anyway.

It was too short for a pilot. Isn't this supposed to the big new show ABC has a lot of hope and money behind? I hope it gets better.

The only other thing I can add that hasn't been said already, is that the timing was kind of off. The opening scene seemed to drag forever, and then everything was so lurchingly "stop-start" after that. Just when I was getting into it, it went off. And we didn't see the teaser that they put on all the commercials where the tail of the plane gets severed.

Oh, and why was the polit suddenly out of breath after being knocked out for 16 hours? That didn't make sense to me...

M

All we can hope for is that ABC treats this show better than FOX did Firefly....

I *really* liked it!!!! Brainless mindless TV Candy....

J.J. hasn't let me down yet!!!

I watched this. It seems like a Stephen King type of show. I didn't care too much for it.

I thought this was pretty entertaining, but I need to watch another episode or two to decide if I'm in or not ... I'm not sure how I feel about the Giant Mystery Jungle Monster aspect. And I have no idea how they're going to sustain this as a long-term show, but if anyone can pull it off, JJ can!

watching tonight based upon this thread

I go near something resembling a TV nearly every day. It's called a computer. *hugs*

I watched it and it had my interest. I am not sure, I think there is a replay this Sat. of the first portion?

I forgot to set the recorder for the second episode. Did anyone else watch and want to share?

I watched.


~~~~~SPOILER~~~~~long

Well, alot has been revealed it seems.
The dog:
Apparently the dog (a lab) belongs to the guy with the little kid. The guy (dad) was traveling with his son, taking him out of Australia due to the death of the kid's mom with whom he was living. The kids was out searching for the dog when he came upon a pair of handcuffs on the ground-------->

Pretty dark-haired girl:
After a scuffle with the tall blond guy with an attitude, a guy with knowledge of radios led a hike to the top of the mountain/cliffs to get better reception to try to signal help. Pdhg goes along. While this radio guy and attitude guy had been in a scuffle, accusations were made that each of them was a prisoner belonging to the handcuffs and everybody was very suspicious of everybody. The attitude guy pulls out a gun that he took from an unconscious passenger and shot a huge POLAR (POLAR) BEAR that attacked them on the mountainside. The pdhg grabbed the gun and emptied the bullets so no one would get hurt. Then she has a flash-back to the plane ride and we discover that SHE was the handcuffed prisoner------>

Back at the wreck:
Doc decides to remove shrapnal (sp?) from unconscious guys abdomen so he has a better chance of surviving. With help of curly-haired cool dude, he removes the piece upon which the unconscious guy 'comes to' and we realize he was the marshall in charge of the prisoner (pdhg). His first words are something like 'WHERE IS SHE?'--------->

Hobbit kid:
In flashbacks we see hobbit kid as the person running down the plane aisle away from flight attendants where he hides in the BR and proceeds to take out his stash and snorts a bump or two of (?) cocaine. The plane then starts to drop and his cocaine gets lost in the BR. (Reason for his looking in plane BR when discovering the pilot was still alive) Later we see him hiding in trees with his baggy that he had recovered from said BR and he was doing more snorting. Small baggy...can't last much longer--------->

Preggo woman:
She feels the baby kick------>

Husband who is super-protective of wife:
Remains reclusive, but goes into water to find fish which he prepares and offers to other survivors....repremands wife for having top button of her shirt open when other male survivors are near. When husband leaves she skowls at him and unbuttons her shirt again------->

Back to the radio guy and the group at the top of the mountain:
They hear a signal in French and English which the smarty pants non-preggo blond girl translates as a call for help from a woman. In English, a computer-voice recording is coded somehow with successive numbers to determine how many times the message was recycling without a response. The radio guy says it has been re-playing/retransmitting for 16 years------>

There's more I'm not including, I'm sure, but I can't remember .

I'm somewhat liking it, but I just can't see how this show will last more than one season, unless perhaps all the people are killed off and another plane crashes there. (cue twighlight zone music)


I think the young boyfriend of smarty-pants non-preggo girl is SO ADORABLE!

The First two episodes are repeated Saturday.

Than you have a shot, because he is her brother!!!

Good recap T.

I am enjoying it....and who would have thought that '24' could have lasted more than one year? Or 'Murder One'....ohh....

I watched last night, although I missed last week's. I liked it and will probably continue to watch, but I was sad that they had to kill a polar bear. (I know, I know, it was charging right at them, but still...)

The thing that will end up annoying me is that there will be all sorts of things that are probably never explained (like the polar bear in the tropical climate). Maybe he was on whatever crashed 16 years ago with the French-speaking lady.

i watched this last night and thought it was pretty good but one thing that annoyed me was all the commercials! it seemed like we'd get back from the break and watch two minutes of the show and then WHAM back to commercial. i dont know, it coulda just been that i was low on patience yesterday.

No, I thought there were too many commercial breaks, too.

Tangent...
And I think this was brought up somewhere before, but what is UP with the animated commercials taking up part of the screen while your watching the program? The regularly scheduled commercials are bad enough...then you have these annoying animations coming up in the corner, telling you what show is NEXT!!!
Please...give me HBO!!!

i'm guessing these were invented because of the people that have tivo ect.. and basically never have to watch the commercials. but i hate them too...so distracting escpecially in the middle of some serious drama!

That, plus, the network can plug their other shows during the shows and sell the commercial space they would have used to other sponsors.

so many characters...but liked it.

*don't like the asian hubby.
*the backgammon guy gave me the creeps
*where's the puppy? let him be safe
*yes trudes, the annoying blond girls brother is very easy on the eyes


why was the dark haired woman being held prisoner? did i blink at the wrong time?

Hey Barry...
A shot at what?
He could probably be my grandson.
Not that there's anything wrong with that!!

Yes, I am a DOW.

Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore????? Just sayin.

What's a DOW?

Delicious Older Woman?

Divorced On a Whim?

Democrat on Welfare?


M

tried to watch the rebroadcast of the premier epi tonight but not enough patience to sit through an average 5 minutes of commercials to 2 minutes of teleplay

downright organic weed
digital operations weapon

For the record, I think the show will last.

Other predictions:
Irritating girl will become more likeable as time goes by.
Her brother will be the first to die.
The asian woman can speak English, but she's being silenced by her overprotective husband for some reason.

And the smartass guy is hilarious:
"I just shot a bear!"

Turns out my better half (good thing she's the better one, right?) Tivo'ed the second episode, so I got to watch it after all!

I have to say they should have definitely made it a two hour pilot (coincidentally both episodes are titled "Pilot" and labeled 1.01, and 1.02 on IMDB) so maybe it was a last minute decision to split them up, no? At any rate, we had one pretty boring first episode, and one pretty darned exciting second one. (Zayne, the commercials are a lot easier to take when you have Tivo--you just click three times for approximately ten seconds and they're gone, and Tivo syncs it right up to the beginning of the show again--it rocks, but makes the aforementioned "in-show" ads that more bothersome. ARGH! Incidentally, there were more commercial breaks, but they were shorter in duration. Don't know if anyone else noticed that.

Anyway, on to the show.

Has anyone considered that the Polar bear was being shipped on the plane? It's the only thing that makes sense. Secondly, can anyone say "FOOD?" I hope they at least drag the thing back and have some juicy grilled Klondike bars. (!)

And as for Kate, or "pretty dark haired girl" as Trudes calls her, her actual name is Evangeline Lily (I wonder if she pronounces it with a short or long "i"?), at any rate IMDB shows her as only having one other acting appearance, which I never watched. I have seen her before though. The more I think about it, I think it was a commercial. Can anyone help by naming ANYTHING else she's done? It's been driving me crazy since last week.

The so far the unnamed--yet the script calls him Jin-- Asian guy (Daniel Dae Kim) has been on TV shows like really major--most notably, for me, being several guest appearance on Angel until he got killed off during the pre-apocalypse. His character here seems pretty interesting what with his abusive attitudes toward his wife and his seemingly Rambo-esque nurturing techinques toward the other castaways.

Another notable, whom I remember from Antwone Fisher is Malcom David Kelly (the little boy with a lost dog). If he keeps it up, he'll turn into a great actor.

Harold Perrineau Jr, (lost dog boy's dad) was Link on the second and third Matrix movies, and although I didn't care too much for him there, he seems to be starting this series off on a better note (maybe it was the dreads). We'll see what the rest of the season makes does for him.

Most of the other players are as of yet unnamed on IMDB, so I can't comment on anyone else by name, but with the slight exception of the "bad guy" no one's really turned in any bad-ish acting so far. Wouldn't anyone else agree?

Well, enough about the actors, on to the plot.

Interesting turn of events with Kate turning out to be the criminal, and the older bald man obviously hiding something very big.

I have to wonder though, how many red herrings they're throwing us. The backgammon line was NOT a throw away line, BTW. That bit about it being the oldest game in the world, with one light and one dark opponent--kind of relevant, no?

The kid (Walt) reading the comic book that just so happened to contain a rampant Polar Bear--I don't know if that was just thrown in for fun, or if it will turn into a significant plot device. I'm a little bit sorry I read an article in EW last week about the show because it contained a pretty big spoiler. It said we'd see evidence of a big monster during the pilot, and then it disappears for the rest of the season. If that's true, then the show will have to take a much different turn from the way it's heading now. I hope they leave a little bit of mystique to it though. The elements of the unknown like the monster, and the bear as well as the 16 year old repeating message are what's keeping my interest.

Well, I could say more, but no one's probably reading this whole thing anyway (except probably the folks at ABC) so I 'll cut it here and let someone else throw in their thoughts.

Pleasant viewings,
Mark

I read a similar article in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, and I got the feeling the monster would stay a back-of-the-mind kind of evil for much of the first season, but they wouldn't address in head on much until later. That kind of thing happened in Alias all the time. I imagine we'll be kept entertained with other things.

I agree something is up with that bald guy. What was up with the orange thing?

Here's a website about the program.
I thought it was interesting that the bald guy was interacting with the kid so well.
Also that he was explaning the ancient history of his game.
I think there is something very different about him.

if you want to read some interesting theories and other observations go to the website and go to 'community' (the message board).

some theories include time travel, maybe that the scary things happening are coming from the minds of the survivors....the manifestation of their fears?

That's an understandable guess based on the polar bear in the comic book, but I believe that will turn out to be a red herring.

only time will tell.

Here's my theory: 16 years ago, a French zoo ship capsized in a nuclear-testing zone. All of the animals washed ashore to the island, and some funky mutating happened. You know, because of the nuclear stuff. So that unseen thing that goes crashing through the trees and munched on the pilot is . . . a carniverous giraffe. Next I expect to see vicious man-eating penguins and possibly a terrifying army of snarling camels.

Eh? Eh? Good theory, right?

Just kidding (except if I turn out to be right. Then I'm dead serious.)-- I thought the second episode was so much better than the first. The tranceiver business with the repeating message, the convict reveal, and creepy bald backgammon man's "Want to know a secret?" scene have reeled me in.

Damn JJ Abrams.

i like it. now that's thinking outside the box.

Great. Now I'm gonna be disappointed if I DON'T see man-eating penguins.

The show definately intrigued me after the second episode. Even with all of the commercials. Looking forward to Wednesday nights now.

Hey I was thinking the same thing! Drag that hairy beast back to camp!

R U ready?
Meetcha back here later.